Saxophones Vintage Alto Sax Ident

[Steve]

Hi, can anyone ident the alto in the photo's. It's for sale near me and I might give it a go.

 

[PigSquealer]

Hi, can anyone ident the alto in the photo's. It's for sale near me and I might give it a go.View attachment 34756View attachment 34757

It’s probably French or Italian. 1900 - 1915 and high pitched. It’s a “Class B” or Class C” horn. This is just basic beginner level keywork. No Sharps or flats key options. Probably dual octave touches too.

 

[Pete Thomas]

Note that if it high pitch it’s more or less useless for most playing situations.

 

[JayeNM]

metal touches...no bis key but keyed up to high F...backdoor G# cup, no low Bb.

Not worth anything really, hard to decipher the engraving. Date as noted above

Consider the amount of servicing needed, also. Most would stay away from this one...

 

[turf3]

OP, if you are thinking of this for an actual playable saxophone, forget it. If you want an interesting wall-hanger, go for it.

Helpful hints to all:

If you find an "old" saxophone and you can't tell what the name is, or when you look it up on the internet there's nothing - it is NOT a previously unknown fabulous instrument. If the name is just one or two letters away from a famous name - "Helmer", "Busfet", etc. - NO, it's not a rare engraving mistake. If all the saxophone retailers are selling ones like it for $3000 and this one's price is $300, NO, it's not the deal of a lifetime.

 

[JiJi]

Castanheira successor to Pereira, Porto-Portugal. Before or around 1900 ?
"Pereira & Castanheira"
"Porto-Lyre-Lisboa"

 

[JiJi]

Kelly'sDirectory of Merchants, Manufacturers and Shippers
1907
CardosoPereira ,Castanheira & Cia . r . do Almada , 204

 

[JayeNM]

Kelly'sDirectory of Merchants, Manufacturers and Shippers
1907
CardosoPereira ,Castanheira & Cia . r . do Almada , 204

Dang.....nice sleuthing.

Unfortunately ...doesn't do anything for the value or play-worthiness of this horn, but interesting nonetheless...

 

[Woodpad]

Castanheira successor to Pereira, Porto-Portugal. Before or around 1900 ?
"Pereira & Castanheira"
"Porto-Lyre-Lisboa"

Musical instruments of Pereira are already mentioned in 1863 as participant in the 1865 international exposition in Porto.

Custódio Cardoso Pereira & C.ª - Instrumentos Musicais

A origem do fabricante de instrumentos musicais “Custódio Cardoso Pereira & C.ª” está ligada ao aparecimento em Portugal da primeira fábric...

restosdecoleccao.blogspot.com

 

[JiJi]

Thanks Woodpad, and I know that link.

We can read this:
Regarding the "Custodio Cardos Pereira & Cia steam-powered musical instrument factory" and the "Castanheira & C." company in Porto, both were managed by Marques Teixeira in the 20th century.

The saxophone model is old, but it would be surprising if it dated from the 1865 period.
The public domain for the Sax patent is after.
This is the first time I have encountered this stamp on a saxophone, I am familiar with the more recent stamps: Castanheira & Ca SUCes of C.C. Pereira Porto-Lyre.
The number of saxophones that appear on the net is very limited and I searched at Lecomte and found nothing similar.

 

[PigSquealer]

Musical instruments of Pereira are already mentioned in 1863 as participant in the 1865 international exposition in Porto.

Custódio Cardoso Pereira & C.ª - Instrumentos Musicais

A origem do fabricante de instrumentos musicais “Custódio Cardoso Pereira & C.ª” está ligada ao aparecimento em Portugal da primeira fábric...

restosdecoleccao.blogspot.com

Very interesting history. Thanks for taking the time to research and share.