Saxophones Andy Sheppard limited edition saxophone ??

daveysaxboy · Jan 19, 2014

Jamesmac said:
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Actually I said YTS could be 32. For me in that situation I would have my 10M as my regular and the 32 that I just sold would be the back up.

PS. Doesn't need to be a YTS. Could be any good modern student horn. Ie. the contrast.

Well he has a YTS 62 so the way you said it people would of thought of the 62, I did 😉
People like vintage other people like modern. Give me modern over vintage everytime.

Jamesmac · Jan 19, 2014

daveysaxboy said:
Well he has a YTS 62 so the way you said it people would of thought of the 62, I did 😉
People like vintage other people like modern. Give me modern over vintage everytime.

I like both, but must admit the Conn sound is a bit special. I'm sure if I spent a lot of time trying lots of modern horns I would for sure find something I like. But for the moment I'm still working on getting the Tenor to where I feel I have complete control. But I never say never to anything. 🙂

daveysaxboy · Jan 19, 2014

Jamesmac said:
I like both, but must admit the Conn sound is a bit special. I'm sure if I spent a lot of time trying lots of modern horns I would for sure find something I like. But for the moment I'm still working on getting the Tenor to where I feel I have complete control. But I never say never to anything. 🙂

I agree on the Conn sound, its legend and true. Monster horns for sure. Like all things we all find/like our own thing. I've always been a full on working player and a modern horn just sits better with me. Projection, ergos, build and intonation etc on modern feel better for me. Dave O'Higgins 10M has had the Steve Crow work on it. Keywork to feel like a Selmer 6. Nice

Ads · Jan 19, 2014

Eventually my second tenor will be a 10M (it`s a Corton at the moment which is like a Poor mans SX90) and will get Steve Crow to work on it but cash flow is far off that kind of luxury at the moment .. I`ve got a 1959 Elkhart factory made wireguard 14M (Poor mans 6m) which needs dent work and a good service and will be off to Connollys as soon as the 62 MK3 Alto gets sold

altissimo · Jan 19, 2014

here's Paul Dunmall playing one of Steve Crow's modified Conn's -
http://youtu.be/BDckv08A974
sounded amazing from the front row..
I asked Paul if Steve Crow had fitted an extra turbo boost key and he laughed... when I told him I had a 6M his eyes lit up and he said that if he played alto he'd have a 6M

Ads · Jan 19, 2014

Yup a pretty fast Sax solo , I just wish the guy messing about with the drum kit spoiling it would go and get a Pint !! :rofl:

altissimo · Jan 19, 2014

Ads said:
Yup a pretty fast Sax solo , I just wish the guy messing about with the drum kit spoiling it would go and get a Pint !!

Ads · Jan 19, 2014

Sorry, I AM a Rock & Blues player :clapping:

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altissimo · Jan 19, 2014

well, Paul Dunmall used to play with Johnny Guitar Watson - http://youtu.be/tlgOVmLfNnU
but you'll probably moan that this is too funky for you.. :rolleyes:

daveysaxboy · Jan 21, 2014

Anyways getting back to the thread my AS TOON model just gets better.

Lupifaro · Jan 25, 2014

daveysaxboy said:
Anyways getting back to the thread my AS TOON model just gets better.

So glad your happy with your TOON...the BUDAPEST is in my showroom...gonna make someone very happy..

daveysaxboy · Jan 25, 2014

Birdman said:
So glad your happy with your TOON...the BUDAPEST is in my showroom...gonna make someone very happy..

Yea 2 peas in a pod are we. Perfect pairing. 2 very loud Geordies...lol. The ultimate tenor I think.

Lupifaro · Jan 25, 2014

daveysaxboy said:
Yea 2 peas in a pod are we. Perfect pairing. 2 very loud Geordies...lol. The ultimate tenor I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=194f7wTASa4

Here is the BUDAPEST demo by Andy Sheppard

daveysaxboy · Jan 25, 2014

Birdman said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=194f7wTASa4

Here is the BUDAPEST demo by Andy Sheppard

Hey I got 1 of them CD's with my TOON horn on it, Brag I will :sax:

Melissa · Jan 26, 2014

As you know I am not the greatest fan of modern saxophones, but this could seriously change my mind, it sounds just wonderful, has a lovely core to it and, I don't know really what to say, but I think you are very lucky to own one, I wouldn't refuse one!

daveysaxboy · Jan 26, 2014

Melissa said:
As you know I am not the greatest fan of modern saxophones, but this could seriously change my mind, it sounds just wonderful, has a lovely core to it and, I don't know really what to say, but I think you are very lucky to own one, I wouldn't refuse one!

I've had loads of the best horns going. Had loads of Selmers. Nothing can touch my AS Toon sax. I keep saying its the ultimate tenor and mine is.

Ads · Jan 26, 2014

Davey's description as being like a Silver 62 but more of it seems to be about the best comparison from the dems I`ve heard, marry deep full almost Conn-like bell notes with a YTS-62AG body notes to the top with a bit more "breadth" at the top ...

The 62 will do me , the Lupifaro sounds interesting at Canonball / TJ-RAW Kinda money though ........

Kevin Goodall · Mar 25, 2014

What's interesting regarding the comments of the AS model is that Andy Sheppard would sound like himself on anything he played and nobody is going to sound like him if you spent any amount of money. I have a Signature Custom RAW XS which fits my hands well plays great and is well built. When I play at a gig all I want is to sound good and for the people who listen to like my sound. I am sure if I played a AS model I would sound like me.

A few years ago the choice of sax was very easy nowday's there is to much choice Even Yanagisawa have bought out a new range. loooks just a cosmetic change to me.

I am sure that we will see even more models comming out over the years and tweaks to the current ones.

everyone should just buy a sax within their budget that THEY like and get on with blowing it!!

I have great respect for David Farley he takes great care in his workmanship and builds fantastic saxophones The RAW is really a great sax honest!!

jazz625 said:
Lets get back to the subject of this thread. The Andy Shepard Signature Tenor.
I will reiterate my view. The 5K price tag aside, I'm still finding it very difficult to understand the point of this saxophone?
I read the small text on Sax.co.uk, and there it says that Andy tried three separate prototype horns before he was happy, over a period of 2 years. Much of the work had gone into the next angle, the bell design, and by the sounds of things, a lot of time into the keywork. They are all hand made. Real craftsmanship.

The idea, the concept, was to build the perfect saxophone. In fact, the perfect players saxophone, where sound and play-ability was on the top of the list. It does not have any fancy features, no engraving, not laquar. They then gave if to some big names in the industry, I even see that Morgan Fry has posted a note on this thread. He says that the tone was wonderful, and the keywork was light, fast and compact....

So, sounds great! And a lot of time money research and effort has gone into the perfect saxophone, the players horn!

So, this is the bit that puzzles me, why lock it away in some collectors cupboard, by limiting the number of horns to 100? All of them good ideas, lovely tone, light fast keywork, hidden from use by us, the players!?

It's a real shame. Trevor James has really gone up in the world of saxophones, gaining a lot of respect in the industry, and we hear they have the perfect design. This could really set the English Saxophone up there with the big boys!!

That's my point. Bad on you Mr Sheppard! Band on you Mr Farley! Don't lock it away! Let it free!!

Oh, and daveysaxboy. Please don't mention the price. Its not about the price. It about the pointlessness of this project. The loss of a potential legend in saxophones.

daveysaxboy said:
Jules told me today the score.The new XS has just a touch more hand finish and set up plus its proper bare brass,might be atd more free blowing compared to the normal RAW.The Sheppard went through Andys hands about 4 times ,each time he changed things.It blows darker they say.Feels lighter in weight also.

daveysaxboy · Mar 25, 2014

Kevin Goodall said:
What's interesting regarding the comments of the AS model is that Andy Sheppard would sound like himself on anything he played and nobody is going to sound like him if you spent any amount of money. I have a Signature Custom RAW XS which fits my hands well plays great and is well built. When I play at a gig all I want is to sound good and for the people who listen to like my sound. I am sure if I played a AS model I would sound like me.

A few years ago the choice of sax was very easy nowday's there is to much choice Even Yanagisawa have bought out a new range. loooks just a cosmetic change to me.

I am sure that we will see even more models comming out over the years and tweaks to the current ones.

everyone should just buy a sax within their budget that THEY like and get on with blowing it!!

I have great respect for David Farley he takes great care in his workmanship and builds fantastic saxophones The RAW is really a great sax honest!!

Its common sense he would sound like him, vice versa if its me playing a sax. Theres loads of great horns made in these modern times. Finding 1 that lets you be you is the best horn. I had a RAW XS and it was a great sax but my AS tenor is just nicer in all ways. As for the new Yani WO range there is bore changes made so there a new model. So are you now keeping your RAW as I see its still up for sale on other sites ?

Kevin Goodall · Mar 25, 2014

daveysaxboy said:
Its common sense he would sound like him, vice versa if its me playing a sax. Theres loads of great horns made in these modern times. Finding 1 that lets you be you is the best horn. I had a RAW XS and it was a great sax but my AS tenor is just nicer in all ways. As for the new Yani WO range there is bore changes made so there a new model. So are you now keeping your RAW as I see its still up for sale on other sites ?

yes happy with my RAW now initially did not like the UL as I have always been used to shiny ones but learnt that you have to give it time. Yes I agree the one that sounds best for you is the best. I think at the the day you get a sax that fits your budget I cannot afford 5k I am sure it must be a great sax given people that have been involved in design and build