Slowly gearing up for my tenor quest...

[pete_canter]

I think that there is a difference in sound between the lacquered and unlacquered 66R which otherwise are the same horn with rolled tone holes. The laquered model has a darker sound. The System 76 tenors are different again with a less "woody" more classical sound.

 

[daveysaxboy]

Hi,just to say you can try out sax's at Saxhire but only Yamaha's and T.JAME'S horn's i think as he is a main dealer for those and i must say that ?400.00 is not a little bit more,so any one who know's they want a new Yamaha sax and has any sence will not pay ?400.00 for the same brand of sax,i agree if your wanting to try many top branded sax's there's only 1 place to check out and that is sax.co.uk but again ?400.00 to many people is alot of cash. 8|

 

[daveysaxboy]

Forgot to say when i got my 66r i also tryed the 76 tenor along side it and felt you could get much more air,projection through the 66r,it had a bigger,fatter,rich sound and as Andy Sheppard say's that woody,grainy sound was true to my ear's.The palm key's have a great full round ring to them and the altissimo was great.The 66r is what they say ,a monster sax and i am sure you will like them.

 

[pete_canter]

Following on from my earlier post in this thread, I spent the morning at Wessex Woodwind switching between a 66R and a 66RUL trying to decide which to get as my back-up tenor. Finally opted for the unlaquered job because it was easy to switch between the two and get a good sound on both even though there is a clear difference in the sound as I said before. The first time I tried an UL a few weeks ago, I thought it was too harsh but now playing a softer reed I really liked it and the top end is great. This way I have room to develop the sound on both horns and added bonus is it will be easy to tell which one is which!! Also compared to the one that Griff brought me to try a few weeks ago, the soldering on this one is very clean so there are no brown solder spots around the posts. The engraving is also really good and it's a fantastic looking horn.

 

[Moz]

Tom 8)
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Tom,

You're not helping 😉 I've now got to go and have a look at their website, these are the hand made Italian saxes aren't they? I don't like the direction this is going

All the best,

Chris
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There is a new website: www.moresaxesthanyoucanshakeastickatbutcantmakeadecision.com
where, for a small fee, the salesman can make your choice more difficult by offering you a selection of over 70,000 mouthpiece/reed combinations. Once you have narrowed your desires down to 57, he offers you a free can of beans (or is it worms) and over 1500 different slings. They have saxes in 16 million different colours, one for every lottery combination plus a few extra. They have 45 different stands for each flavour of sax, 14 sax mikes, PA's for 27 different venue types, 100 million 'playalong' CD's, a choice of 1700 sax teachers -- three of whom live in Botswana and have cats. They show you 2 x 10^6 ways of playing Misty, no ways to play Stairway to Heaven or Smoke on the Water (but there is an equivalent site for guitarists where they do). They have a tutorial section showing how to stand at a gig plus a selection of cloth caps and waistcoats -- each selection has variants relative to the sax/reed/mouthpiece/stance you chose earlier. Finally, there is a section on music styles and jazz icons; there are 326 of these, each requiring a different sax/reed/mouthpiece/stance plus mpc/reed combo.

Now, once you've got to the point where you have all the equipment you require: you need a style and a band.............

BUY A BLEEDIN' SAX, AND SOON!!!

It's not the sax, it's the player.


Cheers, with tongue in cheek,

Moz

 

[Chris98]

david keighley wrote:
Hi,just to say you can try out sax's at Saxhire but only Yamaha's and T.JAME'S horn's i think as he is a main dealer for those and i must say that ?400.00 is not a little bit more,so any one who know's they want a new Yamaha sax and has any sence will not pay ?400.00 for the same brand of sax,i agree if your wanting to try many top branded sax's there's only 1 place to check out and that is sax.co.uk but again ?400.00 to many people is alot of cash. 8|

Hi David,

I hadn?t twigged that you could go and try them out at saxhire, that is good to know and yes ?400 is a big difference.

Any regrets leaving your 66 for a 82Z?

All the best,

Chris

 

[Chris98]

Pete Canter wrote:
Following on from my earlier post in this thread, I spent the morning at Wessex Woodwind switching between a 66R and a 66RUL trying to decide which to get as my back-up tenor. Finally opted for the unlaquered job because it was easy to switch between the two and get a good sound on both even though there is a clear difference in the sound as I said before. The first time I tried an UL a few weeks ago, I thought it was too harsh but now playing a softer reed I really liked it and the top end is great. This way I have room to develop the sound on both horns and added bonus is it will be easy to tell which one is which!! Also compared to the one that Griff brought me to try a few weeks ago, the soldering on this one is very clean so there are no brown solder spots around the posts. The engraving is also really good and it's a fantastic looking horn.

Hi Pete,

I missed you by a day then, I popped into Wessex Woodwind on the 11th, I didn?t try any saxophones out as I was developing the beginnings of a cold and still feeling a little ropey today. Just a thought, did you get your new 66 with a different neck? I just thought that as they do the different necks it would give you greater flexibility tonally, four flavours rather than two.

From your description the 76 sounds less likely to be what I?m after, but the 66, well, I guess I'll only know when I try one.

All the best,

Chris

 

[Chris98]

Moz wrote:

There is a new website: www.moresaxesthanyoucanshakeastickatbutcantmakeadecision.com
where, for a small fee, the salesman can make your choice more difficult by offering you a selection of over 70,000 mouthpiece/reed combinations. Once you have narrowed your desires down to 57, he offers you a free can of beans (or is it worms) and over 1500 different slings. They have saxes in 16 million different colours, one for every lottery combination plus a few extra. They have 45 different stands for each flavour of sax, 14 sax mikes, PA's for 27 different venue types, 100 million 'playalong' CD's, a choice of 1700 sax teachers -- three of whom live in Botswana and have cats. They show you 2 x 10^6 ways of playing Misty, no ways to play Stairway to Heaven or Smoke on the Water (but there is an equivalent site for guitarists where they do). They have a tutorial section showing how to stand at a gig plus a selection of cloth caps and waistcoats -- each selection has variants relative to the sax/reed/mouthpiece/stance you chose earlier. Finally, there is a section on music styles and jazz icons; there are 326 of these, each requiring a different sax/reed/mouthpiece/stance plus mpc/reed combo.

Now, once you've got to the point where you have all the equipment you require: you need a style and a band.............

BUY A BLEEDIN' SAX, AND SOON!!!

It's not the sax, it's the player.


Cheers, with tongue in cheek,

Moz

Hi Moz,

The link don?t work, I?m very upset it sounded like the ideal place for me!

Actually with too much choice I loose interest, I?m much better if I can say it?s this or that but when faced with too much choice I just can?t make a decision and so usually get overwhelmed and have to leave.

This thread is funny really as my original question was a rather daft one about mouthpieces, nothing to do with what saxes I should try, but now, and don't get me wrong as I am grateful, I have a long list!

All the best,

Chris

 

[daveysaxboy]

Hi, well i loved my 66R and love my 82Z, cant say one is better than the other,there both monster free blowing beast's with a great sound,i like the ergo's on the Z more but i think Yamaha's have the best action,ergo's going.I liked my 66R with a Selmer Ref 54 NECK compared to the super jazz Mauriat neck,felt there was more rich harmonic's with it and tamed it a bit,every man to him self and what he like's is what i say,you would like both horn's im sure and that's the hard part is picking.If i had the cash now i would get a 66R to stand along side my Z but i dont >.< never say never though with us gear head's :S

 

[pete_canter]

Hi Chris - I was just getting over a cold when I got there!, had hardly played for 3 days so it took a while to make my mind up. No didn't consider getting a different neck - I'd waited for weeks for the unlaquered 66 to come into stock and that was the only UL neck in the shop. Anyway I like the sound of the jazz neck on the laquered 66, and so far have continued gigging on that horn rather than the new one which I'm still getting to know. cheers Pete