Second hand Sax price's.

[Saxlicker]

Yamaha mad wrote:

My wife didn't like the sound my 62 made, (she's a Jan Garbarek fan :?) as it wasn't mellow enough and the 992 does make a deeper rounder sound to my ear.

I reckon.....
The player is 50% of the sound
Mouthpiece 30%
The sax 12%
Reeds, ligatues 8%

ish.....

 

[Lockjaw]

Saxlicker wrote:

Yamaha mad wrote:

My wife didn't like the sound my 62 made, (she's a Jan Garbarek fan :?) as it wasn't mellow enough and the 992 does make a deeper rounder sound to my ear.

I reckon.....
The player is 50% of the sound
Mouthpiece 30%
The sax 12%
Reeds, ligatues 8%

ish.....

I'd say that's about spot on, Saxlicker

 

[Lockjaw]

Yamaha mad wrote:

My wife didn't like the sound my 62 made, (she's a Jan Garbarek fan :?) as it wasn't mellow enough and the 992 does make a deeper rounder sound to my ear.

A lot of that is peer pressure from the local band she's in.

Now that I've got the alto back and there both going to be collecting dust for a while.

Yamaha mad.

I wonder, are there any dust collectors groups in the UK I could join? >.< >.< :whistle:

Yamaha mad

This is quite disturbing... I assume from your screen name you actually like the horns... but you are considering getting rid of them because your wife's band have told her they don't like it?

Something very wrong here!
😱

 

[yamaha_mad]

OK Lockjaw......

My wife bought my first beginers sax as a 35th birthday present. I hadn't been allowed a sax at school as it was too dear for my parents to afford when I already liked cricket and fishing plus two other kids to get through secondary school at the time.

As I developed into a sax player I bought the yamaha alto as a step up. My wife then discovered a straight soprano sax and fell in love with it. (Her dad was ex RAF central band, Uxbridge.)

We had the same teacher for a while and the fights were horrible and as she wanted to play big band and I didn't we went our seperate ways. I developed into a Tenor player but it doesn't suit my ear (Im a baritone singer) but so easy to transpose for church music.

Becuase of the stigma towards the instrument (called a 'swine pipe' by the Royal marines) my wife needed as sax to play other than playing 3rd clarinet. So I lent her my Alto and stopped playing becuase of the rows. I even lent her my Tenor which was too big for her.

This is why I have lost my desire to play a sax. My wife wanted a yani, liked the sound and it fitted with what her band friends and Univercity teacher had been telling her. (She's doing a Bmus BTW )

I don't like Yamaha motorcycles but there outboards are great and the sound of the horm is beautifull to my ears. When i play I'm on a selmer C*, rovener ligature and a standard vandoren 3 reed. occasionally I fit my yanigaswa 6 metal mouth peice with a V16 van doren reed.

The reason i'm concidering getting shot of them is I don't play them anymore, now the wifes stopped using them its a waste sat collecting dust. I am unable to find the quiet time to play them without 2 kids and then the wife wanting to push me and tell me that I should be in 'her' band and her 'music,' being a session musican, I'm a waste of talent and I 'don't have a sound.'

Does that explain it plainly enough 😡

Yamaha mad

 

[Lockjaw]

Ouch!

Sorry Yamaha mad, that's a sad story. :cry: What a shame it's put you off.

And I must add that whilst I love my Yammies I would never presume to tell another player what they should or shouldn't play. There's no right or wrong, all player's choices (of instrument and music) are equally valid no matter what standard they play to.

 

[yamaha_mad]

George was writting out and teaching me to play the 2.13 minutes sax solo from the song 'Will you' bu Hazel O'Connor from the film breaking glass (1979.)

I'd managed the first part to the solo along with the CD. However George moved away after an illness and I never got to finish it.

Thats where my sax playing finished.

Yamaha mad.

 

[ByteOfTheCherry]

Blimey Yamaha...have to be blunt...your Missus 'n' Co sound to be really 'sad' people...do they actually like music..??.. :cry: :cry:

 

[yamaha_mad]

Her band is a concert band, made up of ex service men and women.

Its all very regimental still.

I went one week. Took the alto and tenor and the conductor said that I could fill in the tenor role for the evening as there was none. I'd never played part music before so I flubed along as best as I could.

Part way through the evening he came out with the comment 'some funny noises tonight. As always we'll blame the Tenor player!' to which all the band laughed. That was enough for me.

Found out later its an in house servicemans joke. >.<

So I never went back.

One of the band came over at Christmas. He's a music teacher. Started to set up and wanted to talk to me and the wife kept on jumping in. I gave up and walked away. They played for 3 hours before they went.

The aim was for the teacher to spend a little time with me to get me to start playing again. This is why I quit 6 years ago.

Sorry If I'm blunt or straight to the point but thats how life is.

Yamaha mad.

 

[ByteOfTheCherry]

"Her band is a concert band, made up of ex service men and women"

Mmmmmm....I love concert bands, played in a very good one many years back with some ex-forces members(and I'm ex STAB myself) excellent musicians in their 'genre'....but I understand :whistle: :whistle: excactly what your saying.... :?

 

[yamaha_mad]

All of these are Ex Royal Marines......

Yamaha mad. :whistle:

 

[Lockjaw]

It really irks me when musos hold snobbish dogmas about right and wrong... I've come across it more in the classical world myself. But at least classical musicians are (generally!) welcoming to a newbie, especially one who doesn't profess to be an expert. That was pretty unpleasant by the conductor.

By way of a riposte: whilst I appreciate there are many fine concert band players, they're not exactly at the cutting edge of musical innovation are they? Next time they're over, ask them to list 10 great compositions originally written for a concert band...

 

[old_git]

Sounds a bit like Bill Monroe's early bluegrass bands, you had to play what he wanted and if there were no gigs, he made you work on his farm.

Griff is ex Royal Marines but one of the good ones not a muso. As he explained to me, "I preferred to kill them with my bare hands." 😉
He plays all sorts of music, Alto with British Legion Central Band, Tenor with the Embassy Big Band and Baritone with The Soul Collective and it's a pleasure listening to him solo on instruments he's repairing.

Retire to the garden shed and do what you want, you never know, you might get to like it, especially your Church music.

Now draw yourself up to your full height and shout "*!%^$ them.".

 

[yamaha_mad]

Sounds mad. I've just played with my daughter and had some fun.

Maybe all I need to do was to say what I was feeling 😱 :?

Sorry.

Yamaha mad.

 

[jonf]

Line by line, my thoughts on your last post.

Doesn't sound mad. Aren't kids great? So's playing when it's fun.

Sounds like you really needed to get it all off your chest. Forums (fora, for pedants like OG, 😉 ) are great for that.

I can't see anything you need to be sorry about.

Jon

 

[Lockjaw]

I'll second that Jon.

Don't know how old your kids are Yamaha mad, but it is hard to keep the playing up when they're small. But is does get easier. Maybe one day you'll get them interested in playing and they'll spark your own interest back! It's worked for me.

All the best anyway.

 

[Bobby G]

All the best Yamaha mad, I hope you get that spark back, it sounds at least as if you've had a bit of it playing along with your daughter. I think you have to play what's in your heart, whether it's something as regimented as a concert band or something off the wall. As far as I'm concerned all music is valid as long as it's honest and comes from the right place, even if it's not to my personal taste. So, by that token, nothing is wrong - whether it was meant in jest or not, the comment about your tenor, while it hurt, may have just been a roundabout way of saying that the sound you were making, rather than the actual notes, was maybe not totally suitable for the context rather than being a slur on your playing. Mind you, it could have been put a bit more kindly or positively (constructive criticism and all that) but in the words of someone a lot more educated than me Nil Illegitemi Carborundum (look it up :S )

 

[peedee]

Yamaha mad wrote:
All of these are Ex Royal Marines......

Yamaha mad. :whistle:

Just like to put in a word for the Royal Marine band:
When I was in the RN, on the aircraft carrier HMS Eagle we had a resident RM band and they were fantastic. Probably the best military band in the world, but also they played great swing and jazz stuff as well, with saxes! Occasionally we were treated to a concert in the dining hall when quiet at sea and it was fantastic. Wasn't aware of any anti sax feeling then, in fact great sax solos when they did their jazz and swing stuff. You had the impression that they could play anything from classical to rock, from marches to jazz.
Just thought I'd let you know 8)

 

[yamaha_mad]

Hey Peedee, I'm not knocking the RM. My last teacher was a RM musician, my cousin was also (Royal Yacht :whistle: ) and I have some very good freinds who have been RM musicians. Even my instrument repairer is an Ex RM musician. My cousin moved to Portsmouth just before the 1989 bombing.

There's a certain genra about them and there way to the un initiated and non military schooled that doesn't work for me.

Lockjawand BobbyG. My kids are 7 and under >.< both into music, one voilin/drums the other keyboards.

To get back to playing is having the free space to develope the confident in what I'm doing than getting picked up all the time and pushed/challenged. I hate that. I'm fine singing, its just when a sax come into view it all goes tit's up. As JonF said a while back, I need to get a tougher musical skin. :laugh: :laugh: l.l

Yamaha mad.

 

[old_git]

Glad it seems to be working out.
Just know that when they are criticising me, they are leaving the others alone.

One other point for JonF, 'Fora' is a low chloesterol margarine brand.

 

[ManEast]

Greg Strange wrote:
A couple of months ago I got my 23 year old 62 series Yamaha alto serviced, and the new repair guy I am using now told one of the guys in the store I drop the sax off to get serviced that my alto was one of the best altos he has ever played.

Maybe the earlier 62 series were better due to the fact in the 1980s the 62 series was Yamaha's top of the line horns and maybe they took a bit more care in building them than the 62 series today (except for the YBS62) which is their bottom of the line pro series.




Hi
In 1980 i got my frist new Sax. A Yamaha YAS 32 . It cost ?442.50 about the same price you now pay for Walstine.
The quality of the old "made in Japan Yamaha" is intrensic.

I later moved on to the 62... BUT i now consider the 32 to be of a better weight.

Regards
ManEast