Ligatures PPT Tenor - best ligature

[Corgi]

Hey!
I've seen that this has been a topic a few times and I have read through the previous threads, but I couldn't find an answer.
What I'm looking for is a metal ligature, preferably with a single screw for my metal PPT 7* (awesome mouthpiece btw.). I had a nice brass BG one that could barely fit, but I had to unscrew it all the way and pretty much force it on. Naturally it broke. Now I would like to find something that actually fits right. Problem is, that music shops around me don't have much to choose from, so I will have to order something online and for that I need to know exactly what fits. Name, model, size!? Any experiences with F.Louis? BG? Vandoren? (not a big fan of Vandoren actually, but still...) etc?

This doesn't have to become a thread about what ligatures are better. I like metal ligatures with one screw because I'm an idiot who when faced with something different gets mixed up and can't place the reed properly 🙂 (sad but true)

Thanks in advance for your help!

EDIT: It's a tenor mouthpiece

 

[kevgermany]

Maybe @Morgan Fry can help.

 

[thomsax]

Maybe Rovner ligs fits your PPT metal tenor? I play a Rovner Deep-V meatal and the form/shape of mouthpieces seems to be close. Look at the chart below. Are PPT metal mpc's made completly from scratch or are they "blanks"? Mesure your PPT metal and send the mesurments + picture to Rovner. PPT mouthpieces are not on thier lists.

Reference Guides

 

[Ivan]

PPT mouthpieces are not on thier lists.

Yes the way you can choose, online, a lig of the right size is to say what mouthpiece you use, but PPT doesn't appear on the lists (e.g. at sax.co.uk)

If we could say that a metal PPT was identical in external diameter and rake to a particular Jody Jazz or a Lakey, for instance, it would make life easier

 

[Jonesy]

I have a metal PPT 8* and the Rovner Light L13 fits nicely.

 

[Sunray]

I have PPT 7* and PPT 8* Tenor Metal Mouthpieces and play both regularly ...

Personally mate ...

I wouldn't choose a metal ligature on a metal mouthpiece due to it badly scratching the [probably quite expensive] mouthpiece over time.

Like others have said consider Rovner or similar products which will be much kinder on your metal PPT ...

 

[kevgermany]

I have a metal PPT 8* and the Rovner Light L13 fits nicely.

But that's not a metal one screw lig, Afik.

 

[jonf]

But why be so bothered about having a metal single screw lig? It's only the strap that holds the reed on, after all. What does it matter what it's made from? Not wishing to sound critical or anything, but I also can't quite get my head around the idea that anything with more than one screw is difficult to use.

 

[thomsax]

Rovner Platinum! Metal and 1-screw. Expensive, so try before you buy.

PLATINUM Ligature

This is a good one: BG FL.Out of production. It just fit a Berg Larsen, Dukoff .... . I don't think it fit a PPT metal.

 

[Pete Thomas]

I have a metal PPT 8* and the Rovner Light L13 fits nicely.

Yes, the Rovner Li3 does fit, but I'm not sure which of the Rovner metal one screw ligs fit.

 

[Corgi]

Thanks for all the suggestions, please keep 'em coming!
I forgot to say, that yes, I'm talking about the tenor mouthpiece (I will edit original post and write it)

Are PPT metal mpc's made completly from scratch or are they "blanks"? Mesure your PPT metal and send the mesurments + picture to Rovner.

I have no idea how they are made. OMG that is an excellent suggestion!!! What do you think I should mesure? highest point, widest point and circumference?

I have PPT 7* and PPT 8* Tenor Metal Mouthpieces and play both regularly ...

Personally mate ...

I wouldn't choose a metal ligature on a metal mouthpiece due to it badly scratching the [probably quite expensive] mouthpiece over time.

Like others have said consider Rovner or similar products which will be much kinder on your metal PPT ...

Yes it's quite expensive and already scratched. I call those battle scars 😀 I don't plan on selling it so it's ok. Gives it more character 🙂 Have you by any chance ever tried a metal ligature?

But why be so bothered about having a metal single screw lig? It's only the strap that holds the reed on, after all. What does it matter what it's made from? Not wishing to sound critical or anything, but I also can't quite get my head around the idea that anything with more than one screw is difficult to use.

Yeah! It's crazy and makes no sense to me either. I tried some ligatures with two screws and some leather ones. They just don't feel comfortable. Not sure how to put it in words. Just feels weird and I keep having to adjust them. Either they feel too tight or too lose. Can't find that sweet spot. Maybe it's all just in my head. Most probably it is. But I think one has to be comfortable when playing and maybe I would just get used to it over the time, but at this point it's just not working for me. Very distracting when I play...

Rovner Platinum! Metal and 1-screw. Expensive, so try before you buy.

PLATINUM Ligature

This is a good one: BG FL.Out of production. It just fit a Berg Larsen, Dukoff .... . I don't think it fit a PPT metal.
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Platinum! Wow! That's crazy! And crazy expensive!
I have a feeling I will buy the same BG I used to have. It lasted for couple of years + as you said fits my Berg perfectly 😀

 

[Pete Thomas]

Are PPT metal mpc's made completly from scratch or are they "blanks"?

They are made from scratch. The Onyxite ones are molded, metal and hard rubber are machined.

 

[Pete Thomas]

Rovner Platinum! Metal and 1-screw. Expensive, so try before you buy.

PLATINUM Ligature

The Rovner platinum is a great ligature, I think it would probably be the PR-2 you need for a PPT slimline HR or metal, however I have not tried one so cannot be completely sure. It looks like that one is the same size as the fabric L13, which I know does fit.

 

[Reed Warbler]

The fabric Rovner L13 works well for me on a PPT and only has one screw. Simple to use.

 

[Pete Thomas]

Just got a ligature sent over from Marc jean. I believe this is a new model, the 700

A perfect fit for PPT Onyxite tenor

 

[Jeanette]

Looks great, any affect on the sound?

Can we have some Soundclips 😉

Jx

 

[Pete Thomas]

Looks great, any affect on the sound?

Yes, it sounds better with the ligature on the mouthpiece than not on the mouthpiece. I can do a recording with the ligature on, but if it's not there the reed falls off so it would be a bit quiet.

 

[Jeanette]

but if it's not there the reed falls off so it would be a bit quiet.

You obviously need to develop your embouchure more 🙂

Jx

 

[Jazzaferri]

though they are ridiculously expensive the new top of the line Silverstein can be ordered to fit and it does form well to the mouthpiece and they look like a cross between high tech and a medieval torture device.

they do make a huge difference to the number of notes one can get as it frees up one hand from holding the reed on.

 

[kevgermany]

I've got one of the older types. They fit. They work. Do they affect sound - clearly compared to a lig that doesn't fit. Otherwise I'm not sure.