Ligatures PPT Tenor - best ligature

[Nick Wyver]

Just got a ligature sent over from Marc jean. I believe this is a new model, the 700

Emmachizzit?

 

[Pete Thomas]

I just heard from marc, this one is the standard, not made specifically for PPT, but fits perfectly.


Looks like they are about $60.

 

[saxyjt]

Looks great, any affect on the sound?

So a ligature can fall in love with the sound? 😱

 

[saxyjt]

Looks like they are about $60.

His website shows much higher prices but doesn't refer to any 700 model. Shipping to Europe shows at 50$ already...

 

[Pete Thomas]

His website shows much higher prices but doesn't refer to any 700 model. Shipping to Europe shows at 50$ already...

Oh, I was looking this:

Marc Jean Tenor Saxophone Ligature

But I see it's out of stock.

However seems to be ahere at $70

Marc Jean Tenor Ligature Model 700 Lacquered (Hard Rubber)

 

[saxyjt]

@Pete Thomas the only trouble is that they don't look at all like the one you pictured on the PPT mouthpiece, so do these fit the same? Who knows? 😱

Not that I care too much personally as I don't have a PPT tenor. Yet! 😉

 

[Pete Thomas]

@Pete Thomas the only trouble is that they don't look at all like the one you pictured on the PPT mouthpiece, so do these fit the same? Who knows? 😱

Not that I care too much personally as I don't have a PPT tenor. Yet! 😉

You are right, that pic looks like the original one not the 700

 

[Corgi]

i posted this question on th SOTW as well to see what they will come up with. in the end i decided to order Francouis Louis s size bare brass... few days ago it finally arrived! (it didn't take THAT long to arrive i just didn't order it right away). 🙂

does it fit? yes... kind of... not really... it's very tight, but usable. if you like to do the Dexter Gordon thing and pull it all the way back, welllll... there's no way you can do that. but upfront or middle position works ...ohhh, and it will scratch your mpc like crazy!!! so if esthetics are important to you, this ligature is not a good choice (i don't really care about that, so it's all good)

would i recommend it? no. well not unless it's your only option... it works, but i am sure there are better fitting things out there...
having said that, i was always a believer that ligatures have zero to very little influence on the sound (mostly material vs. metal just because it's hard to create same tightness or put them in the same position)... but the change with FL is quite noticeable, especially on my berg! as much as i dislike to use these terms to describe the sound, i would call this more open, more bright and strangely a bit more projective (--- usually i find that when things go bright they also get a bit thiner). maybe one day i will get a mic and record you a clip 🙂

i hope somebody finds this useful in the future and thanks again for help! 😉

 

[Pete Thomas]

Update on this ligature, I found that that with some reeds, it isn't quite tight enough, I have emailed Marc as I think it is an easy fix to just tap the thread a bit longer, as there is some leeway for the actual lig to go tighter as the ligature itself is not closing up completely, it's just hitting the end of the screw thread.

EDIT: just heard from Marc Jean, helpful as ever he is sending one with a longer thread.

 

[kevgermany]

Guess you could put a little washer or tube spacer on for now?

 

[Pete Thomas]

Guess you could put a little washer or tube spacer on for now?

That won't work due to the nature of the mechanism. The thread has to go further into the nut.

 

[chadders]

Hi Anyone know if the Marc Jean V2 ligature (woodstock) works with the PPT (tenor) - Am currently using a cheap brass 2 screw brass lig and a cut down reed shank as a packer to negatate the slope on the ppt but its a pain setting up the reed on it, so want something better. I like the look of the Marc Jean but don't want to buy a pup as its a lot of dosh.
ta

 

[Pete Thomas]

I will check with Marc. I know the MKI works very nicely. He sent me a MKII but I don't know if it was generic HR tenor or specifically PPT (as is the MKI)

 

[Ivan]

Hi Anyone know if the Marc Jean V2 ligature (woodstock) works with the PPT (tenor)

Where to buy?

 

[nigeld]

Dick Hamer at South Wales Woodwind sells Marc Jean ligatures.
South Wales Woodwind, Saxophone, Clarinet and Flute Sales, Repairs & Servicing South Wales Woodwind

 

[saxyjt]

For what it's worth, I have found the Vandoren Optimum ligature (that I used on my Vandoren T25) fits my newly acquired PPT Onyxite 7* Tenor mouthpiece perfectly. 😎

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this in these 8 pages of thread, but has anyone tried a peice of string? They're not too hard to use when you get the hang of it and is a guaranteed fit. It's a pain to adjust if you don't have ample space after to grip on the shank, but I use it to make my bandmates confused sometimes.

 

[Targa]

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this in these 8 pages of thread, but has anyone tried a peice of string? They're not too hard to use when you get the hang of it and is a guaranteed fit. It's a pain to adjust if you don't have ample space after to grip on the shank, but I use it to make my bandmates confused sometimes.

How long is a piece of string?

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

How long is a piece of string?

That depends on the thickness of string and diamiter of your mouthpiece.
My peice of nylon parachord for my tenor soloist mouthpiece is 39 inches (99 centimeters).

 

[kevgermany]

My son uses cord on his clarinet mouthpiece. However it's grooved for it.

Marc Jean also sells online. I have a Mk I on my PPT, works perfectly.