Mouthpieces Jody Jazz Super Jet Alto 6

[Konstantin25]

Greetings Pete, I hope you are managing to dodge the COVID19 - sure is Sanborn on alto. I think Gene Dunwoodie or Trevor Lawrence is playing tenor on the album. There is a transcription of the main solo (24 bars over C7 chord) in Hal Leonard Artist Transcriptions David Sanborn Collection published in 1989 on page 14 of the book. Sanborn was born in 1945 recently celebrated his 75th birthday...I think he started using a Bobby Dukoff mouthpiece circa 1980 after his gold plated MK VI with high F# was stolen along with the Brilhart...I got my two vintage Level Airs (alto and tenor) a few years ago from Dave and Teresa Hoskins a.k.a. JunkDude...

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I'm a big fan of the Gil Evans stuff Sanborn played on...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dee_0DHg2I


and a bit of Hendrix...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFuOYgik-o


Greg S.

Have got a Level Air alto? 😱

in Hendrix how can achieve crappy and distort tone?

 

[Adrian63]

@Konstantin25 : There was a Ponzol ( alto ) up for sale here recently ; you should check it out . Jody Jazz is also a good choice . Find some soundclips if you can as to the right choice.
Good luck..
Ade

 

[Konstantin25]

Check 2:26;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af0rV6dli_o

how can achieve such relatively quietly not loud

you think tip opening size matters in loudness?

 

[Konstantin25]

The comparison is well made... my only complain is that Jay's sound concept doesn't fit every mouthpiece.
Other technical considerations:
- Coles 4038 is good for certain type of sound... it does not sound transparent.
Few modern ribbon microphones are definitely more transparent but it's not the case of the Coles 4038.
- Rigotti reeds make everything sound... like a Rigotti sounds.

When I've recorded A/Bs my main concern is to show how the mouthpiece sound.
And not how I sound on the mouthpiece or how much the reed I use makes me confortable on that mouthpiece.
In most of cases, I've recorded multiple samples (with the same mouthpiece) but moving from a reed to another on every sample... try to hit every note of the instrument, at different dynamics.

you think it would be more useful and authentic methodical comparison if they hit every note with the same reed from mpc to mpc?

 

[Konstantin25]

@Konstantin25 ; hi...
If it has to be a metal mpc then skip this ; otherwise you may want to check out the PPT " Hooligan " alto mpc. There is a thread devoted to it including sound clips from Pete himself . Hope you find what you want...

What is PPT Hooligan alto? Can you give me some info? Sound clips maybe?

 

[Adrian63]

@Konstantin25 : hi..
PPT is Pillinger ; Pete Thomas . Between them they make mpcs as advertised both on forum and bought from the online shop. Ed Pillinger is the mpc maker..both he and Pete Thomas ( our forum boss ) designed them.
All information should be under Saxophones and accessories on the forum home page.
I took a look and cannot find the alto sound clips you ask for. Maybe message Pete Thomas...it is him playing ; if the clips are still available maybe he can help..
Good luck my friend
Ade

 

[tzadik]

you think it would be more useful and authentic methodical comparison if they hit every note with the same reed from mpc to mpc?

I think this message is much more relavant: https://cafesaxophone.com/threads/jody-jazz-super-jet-alto-6.29551/post-438206

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Back to your question, some fun facts:

• the saxophone is a "single reed instrument" and not a "mouthpiece instrument": brasses are "mouthpiece instruments"
• different reeds give you different sound; reeds you are comfortable with make you to sound better, with less effort; reeds designed for the sound you are looking for make the sound (you are looking for) easier to produce
• to get a bright sound unfortunately, buying a bright sound is not enough... indeed if you watch the Jay's comparison of the whole mouthpiece line... you don't hear any aggressive/popping sound (nor aggressive lick/lines to show what the brightest piece are capable of). Why? Because that bright sound concept you're probably achieving is not a sound concept similar to Jay's.
• there's a path to get out brightness from a saxophone, the mouthpiece is a tool, a tool doesn't nothing if not managed properly. You need to develope a sound concept which involves a bright sound and the style of playing which makes that bright sound fitting perfectly how you play.
• it's not the brightness which allows you to cut through the mix... because in this case you could just buy a Selmer Concept and then make some tweeks with the eq. It's the compression that makes you to cut through the mix, how fast you are able to send the sound outta the horn.

Bright mouthpieces help to accelerate the flow... but the faster flows the air, the more control is required.
Then it's about which range is more comfortable to play in... and/or, according to the gig, how much dynamic range you really need.
For example: I grow up listening people who get the hell out their metal Links and I've interiorized that sound concept: I used Link-style like, pushing hard to get the kind of vibe... and I don't/didn't need a Dukoff to get an aggressive sound. And I can still have a lot of compression.

Check what Maceo can do with a hard reed and a mouthpiece opened like an old Selmer C*...

 

[saxyjt]

What is PPT Hooligan alto? Can you give me some info? Sound clips maybe?

Check this! It's the Power 8* (Purplite)

I dont have one for alto, but for tenor and baritone. And I love them! Powerful when you need them but also capable of whispering if required.

 

[tzadik]

you think it would be more useful and authentic methodical comparison if they hit every note with the same reed from mpc to mpc?

For sure it's more methodical...
1) get out many reed and ligs... experiment how the mouthpiece/reed/lig combinations work.
You should have flexibility: different combinations = different shade = more options
2) you need to discover how a mouthpiece works at the different dynamics
3) bright sounds mean high dynamics... a bright mouthpiece has to sound good when pushed and still being easy when pushed. IMHO Jody Jazz DV allows a huge dynamic and sounds full even at low dynamics: that's a plus!
Some older design sounds familiar when pushed, but kinda "empty" at low dynamics...

Personally I have tested many JJ HR*... and when pushed they get super funky (when it's me to play them).
If you listen Jay's demo of the JJ HR*, you feel a more traditional jazz tone (also a little on the darker side): it maybe the reed used, the way Jay plays/his sound concept... but from his demo you won't say a JJ HR* is a super versatile mouthpiece... but it is. And the other are versatile as well, but more versatile than you can extrapolate from BetterSax comparison.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2pRFUx3F2o

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U_eFZH44ds

 

[tzadik]

in Hendrix how can achieve crappy and distort tone?

By cranking up a mic pre: this practices is called "overdrive".

The whole track is a bit saturated.

 

[Konstantin25]

@Pete Thomas
Hello Pete,
Could you please give me some info how can I get one PPT Hooligan Alto mouthpiece and what cost?
Thank you in advance. Have a nice day!

 

[saxyjt]

@Pete Thomas
Hello Pete,
Could you please give me some info how can I get one PPT Hooligan Alto mouthpiece and what cost?
Thank you in advance. Have a nice day!

It should all be in the link above... Choose your model, click buy now or add to cart... You're just one step from it! 😉

 

[Pete Thomas]

@Pete Thomas
Hello Pete,
Could you please give me some info how can I get one PPT Hooligan Alto mouthpiece and what cost?
Thank you in advance. Have a nice day!

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