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Beginner Saxes Arbiter pro sound... Taiwan.

bill_reed

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just got myself a Arbiter pro sound sax, it stamped Taiwan and s/n 481296, someone said it was from about 1988 as it not stamped London... plays really well and I really like it a lot just wanting to know more about it as information seems very scarce...
 
Welcome to the Caff @bill_reed .

I've got quite a collection of old saxophone-related catalogues and flyers that I have picked up on my travels round music shops.

I can't remember where I collected a couple of colour glossy Arbiter things. One is a catalogue from 1995, celebrating 50 years "since a young Ivor Arbiter learnt the trade from the back room of a shop [in Soho] specialising in the repair of brass and woodwind instruments." The alto models in the catalogue are the "superb value" SAS565GLS and the "top of the range" WWX520LQ, but no prices are given.

The other item is an undated A4 flyer for Arbiter Pro Sound "jazz collection custom colours" showing a range of finishes including red, white and black. It says "prices from £719.00 RRP inc. VAT".

If you are interested in seeing the catalogue and/or flyer then start a Private Conversation and I could scan them for you.

Rhys
 
Welcome to the Caff @bill_reed .

I've got quite a collection of old saxophone-related catalogues and flyers that I have picked up on my travels round music shops.

I can't remember where I collected a couple of colour glossy Arbiter things. One is a catalogue from 1995, celebrating 50 years "since a young Ivor Arbiter learnt the trade from the back room of a shop [in Soho] specialising in the repair of brass and woodwind instruments." The alto models in the catalogue are the "superb value" SAS565GLS and the "top of the range" WWX520LQ, but no prices are given.

The other item is an undated A4 flyer for Arbiter Pro Sound "jazz collection custom colours" showing a range of finishes including red, white and black. It says "prices from £719.00 RRP inc. VAT".

If you are interested in seeing the catalogue and/or flyer then start a Private Conversation and I could scan them for you.

Rhys
thank you Rhys for the information. that's great... will get in touch so i can get a scan... new to the forum so how do i start a private conversation... thanks again...
 
my Arbiter pro sound alto sax...
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Please forgive the thread resurrection...As a younger man I worked for Arbiter in their brass and woodwind department. I can tell you that the basic 'Pro Sound' saxes were pretty much anything but. They were fine as starter saxes go, pretty much bog standard in construction, made first in Taiwan, then China. The 'Jazz' models were a step up, made solely in Taiwan and the 'Jazz II' a step further still, double key arms etc. They were made in the same factory and to the same specs as other more expensive brands.
They are well worth getting if they're in good nick as the brand name puts people off and bargains can be had, in fact I have just bought one for a good price which will hopefully put my Grassi Alto into the eBay pile. Yes, this is partly nostalgia on my part but they were decent horns.
As an aside, while working there I also got to try possibly the world's worst sax, a demo model from a factory in Vietnam which played a semitone out Low C to middle C, I guess the wrong length neck, but it made for some fun 'Les Dawson' moments in the warehouse during lunch break.
 
Please forgive the thread resurrection...As a younger man I worked for Arbiter in their brass and woodwind department. I can tell you that the basic 'Pro Sound' saxes were pretty much anything but. They were fine as starter saxes go, pretty much bog standard in construction, made first in Taiwan, then China. The 'Jazz' models were a step up, made solely in Taiwan and the 'Jazz II' a step further still, double key arms etc. They were made in the same factory and to the same specs as other more expensive brands.
They are well worth getting if they're in good nick as the brand name puts people off and bargains can be had, in fact I have just bought one for a good price which will hopefully put my Grassi Alto into the eBay pile. Yes, this is partly nostalgia on my part but they were decent horns.
As an aside, while working there I also got to try possibly the world's worst sax, a demo model from a factory in Vietnam which played a semitone out Low C to middle C, I guess the wrong length neck, but it made for some fun 'Les Dawson' moments in the warehouse during lunch break.
Hi, and also sorry to ressurect an old thread but I've had an arbiter pro jazz tenor for quite a few years now. It's in as new condition as it was barely played when I bought it off eBay for £200. I've not played it loads myself tbh, but I've always thought it was just a cheap horn. Anyway, my question to you is, are they worth keeping and playing or should I just upgrade to something better. I'm not a beginner but my playing has been sporadic over the last few years simply through lack of motivation and no real reason to play as I'm no longer playing in bands 😢
 
Hi, and also sorry to ressurect an old thread but I've had an arbiter pro jazz tenor for quite a few years now. It's in as new condition as it was barely played when I bought it off eBay for £200. I've not played it loads myself tbh, but I've always thought it was just a cheap horn. Anyway, my question to you is, are they worth keeping and playing or should I just upgrade to something better. I'm not a beginner but my playing has been sporadic over the last few years simply through lack of motivation and no real reason to play as I'm no longer playing in bands 😢
As you're not a beginner then it really boils down to whether you like the sound you get out of it and how easy it is to play.
If it works fine and you like it - hang on to it and use it. If not, get shot.

They're not bad horns in general - and because it won't fetch much on resale it's probably worth hanging on to...if only as a spare.

If it hasn't been played in a while it would benefit from a service. Horns don't like to be left untouched for years...they sort of get a bit flabby.
 
As you're not a beginner then it really boils down to whether you like the sound you get out of it and how easy it is to play.
If it works fine and you like it - hang on to it and use it. If not, get shot.

They're not bad horns in general - and because it won't fetch much on resale it's probably worth hanging on to...if only as a spare.

If it hasn't been played in a while it would benefit from a service. Horns don't like to be left untouched for years...they sort of get a bit flabby.
Thanks Stephen. I have your Haynes manual for sax , it's very informative. It's not a bad sax really, I'm just not convinced it's worth persevering with. It was serviced a few years ago but I'm not inclined to pay whatever it is these days for another one when it can go towards a better instrument. I've been scouring your reviews on what to look at. The guy in Sax in London suggested an Eastman ets223. He said they were impressed with the tone, intonation and keywork and it's nods to the 52nd street model. Having noticed how many tenors fall into that price range is a little overwhelming. I'm always drawn in by the Getz sound, that husky, cozy, rainy day cafe sound for want of a better description. I'm just not sure how to determine which tenor will help me achieve that with my Otto link tone edge.
 

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