Tech/maintenance Selmer Mark VI pants guard

[jbtsax]

JBT, this gives me hope that someone could design and manufacturer the angel wings (and pant guards) for the Toneking & The New King horns--which are also no longer available. You wouldn't believe how many requests I get for these.

Get me some pictures and I will show them to my machinist grandson, and then we'll talk.

 

[jbtsax]

It seems that Selmer used the same guard on alto, tenor and baritone. I just measured mine and they all seemed to be about 12.3 mm long.

And the ones on my Mk7 and Serie III look very much the same too - still 12.3 mm long.

Rhys

The question is are the holes spaced 65 MM apart on the newer ones?

 

[rhysonsax]

The question is are the holes spaced 65 MM apart on the newer ones?

My alto Mk VI has the 65mm hole spacing, but the tenor and bari Mk VI were 84 mm spacing.

My Mk 7 alto has that same 84 mm hole spacing as do my Serie III tenor and bari.

Rhys

PS I meant 12.3 cm long guard in my previous post rather than 12.3 mm, but what's a factor of ten between friends ?

 

[jbtsax]

My alto Mk VI has the 65mm hole spacing, but the tenor and bari Mk VI were 84 mm spacing.

My Mk 7 alto has that same 84 mm hole spacing as do my Serie III tenor and bari.

Rhys

PS I meant 12.3 cm long guard in my previous post rather than 12.3 mm, but what's a factor of ten between friends ?

Thanks. That is good information to have. The picture below shows the dimensions of the alto Mk VI guard.

 

[helen]

Get me some pictures and I will show them to my machinist grandson, and then we'll talk.

Here is a link to them in my gallery. I would have to dig through my photos to see what I have of them before they were attached to my horns.

You'll notice in the gallery I also have the original patent for the Lucite. It shows the shape.

 

[jbtsax]

Thanks. That is way cool. At first glance it looks as if that shape would have to be done using a "press" of some type.

 

[helen]

Thanks. That is way cool. At first glance it looks as if that shape would have to be done using a "press" of some type.

That might just be.

 

[The Boss]

Forgive me, but I have to show off what my grandson has made. He just graduated from high school is working in a large machine shop and is a whiz at CNC programing. A while back I handed him the guard from my Mark VI alto and said, "Do you think you can make one of these"? He said, "Let me see". Last week he brought down 8 of these he had made staying after work with his boss's permission. The one below with the darker patina is the original and the copy is above. If they were both buffed you probably couldn't tell the difference. Guards with this design are are no longer available.

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Hi, just wondering if you still have these and would sell me one for my tenor? Thanks

 

[Phil]

Nice. Now that its drawn out he may as well make 50 and sell them. Im sure there would be takers.

 

[SaxBoss]

I reckon your grandson is very talented. Lads of today must enjoy the challenge.

Just thinking about it, wonder why Selmer doesn't make spare parts for their MK VI?

 

[jbtsax]

Hi, just wondering if you still have these and would sell me one for my tenor? Thanks

I'm sorry. They have all been sold.

 

[Phil]

I didn’t notice that this was a zombie thread

 

[Pete Thomas]

I didn’t notice that this was a zombie thread

We don’t mind zombie threads here.

 

[PigSquealer]

Zombies are better than Bots to chat with.

 

[Trigger]

Always nice to know vintage parts can be remade and not have to wait for a over priced used item to come on the mark

Well done that man , nice to manufacturing skills aren’t dying out

 

[DesertRoads]

I could use one for my Mark VII Tenor. ;-).

 

[Grumps]

Wow. This is most serious. Was a company's logo design copied here???

 

[Ivan]

Wow. This is most serious. Was a company's logo design copied here???

Not sure we need to get to excited about Copyright in this instance

It may be an issue in theory, but as you can see in his profile, jbtsax has passed away, and so too, in all likelihood, the enthusiasm for making reproduction sax parts by his grandson

 

[Pete Thomas]

Not sure we need to get to excited about Copyright in this instance

To be technically and pedantically correct it isn't copyright, it's trademark, but also technically it is an infringement of a trademark. But for the reasons you mentioned we aren't going to get exercised over it.

 

[Ivan]

To be technically and pedantically correct it isn't copyright, it's trademark, but also technically it is an infringement of a trademark. But for the reasons you mentioned we aren't going to get exercised over it.

You, quite rightly, say potarto

And I say RIP jtbsax, lovely man