Saxophones How will Tariffs affect Sax Prices?

[greenstripe]

According to the BBC copper prices are down, obviously one of the key ingredients in brass. US to 'hang tough' over tariffs as Land Rover pauses shipments to country

 

[mizmar]

copper prices are down

Signalling a slow down in construction.. but a reduction in the cost of musical instruments by, what, 2%?

 

[CliveMA]

How will tariffs affect Sax prices?

What happens when you put 10 economists in a room? You'll get 11 opinions. 🥴

 

[ghostler]

It's always with remembering that the Europeans, including UK, have a long history in economics in general including, not least of all, Mercantilism...

I hope not to burst your bubble, but as of late I'm not given to "ism" because they lead to schism. 😉

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But, my point on protectionism meant not so much for export, but the local population would rely more heavily on internal industry to satisfy the internal needs of the country and keep its population employed.

What happens when you put 10 economists in a room? You'll get 11 opinions. 🥴

You have the Café. 😉

 

[thomsax]

According to the BBC copper prices are down, obviously one of the key ingredients in brass.

President tells US to 'hang tough' over tariffs as Land Rover pauses shipments to country

Donald Trump imposed a 25% tariff on foreign-made cars as part of his economic plan to "supercharge" the US economy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hard to say. The latest days the price copper is pretty stabile. 1 lbs is 4,45 USD. We have to pay 97,40 SEK for 1000 g!. Back in january the copper price was low. The brass prisce is allways lower than copper.

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[CliveMA]

You have the Café. 😉

+1

 

[thomsax]

Protectionism helps maintain a manufacturing base inside a country

That's what they thought in Albania back in the early 70's as well. I visited a canning industry (tomato). Big plant wih old slamming machines (from the Stalin era) with constant outages, less, almost zero, occupational safety ...... . When I asked them what they were going to do to increase the produktion they answered: We are going to hang up more slogans on walls. Today we see lots of "poster politics" around the world.

To cure protectionism? Democracy, education, effecient "distribution policy" to built the welfare state ... and of course "free trade".

 

[mizmar]

I hope not to burst your bubble

Not my bubble. Many hundreds of years of experience that, if when forgotten, will be are repeated.

 

[Woodpad]

present tarriffs will start parallel import through low tarrifs routes, At the moment North Ireland is probably the best way to buy cheap china saxophones in the US.

 

[Woodpad]

Not my bubble. Many hundreds of years of experience that, if when forgotten, will be are repeated.

The almost forgotten English armada qualifies as an example. It was repeated with the more recent expats invasion.

 

[mizmar]

The almost forgotten English armada qualifies as an example. It was repeated with the more recent expats invasion.

Sure. Fair enough. History is constructed, after all.

 

[Tenor Viol]

Of the same era... reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson's visit to New Zealand in the late 1990's, when he was appalled at the number of Morris Marinas still on the roads

"The sort of car a Vietnamese farmer wouldn't get off his oxcart to drive"

I had one for a while in my late teens... I think it was a 1300. No power steering of course or any other driver assistance. It was very heavy steering and hard work. I only had it a few months. I think the next car was a mini (might have been an Escort - don't remember the order now). If you want a really heavy car for steering, the Austin Maxi was probably even heavier on the steering

 

[jonf]

How will tariffs affect Sax prices?

What happens when you put 10 economists in a room? You'll get 11 opinions. 🥴

But when it comes to economics, it's still a thousand times better to consult an economist than a politician.

 

[Targa]

Sure. Fair enough. History is constructed, after all.

The 'winners' write the history.

 

[Pete Thomas]

According to the BBC copper prices are down, obviously one of the key ingredients in brass.

Given the cost of the brass in an alto may be less than $10 I doubt if any tariffs on the raw material will have any significant effect.

but a reduction in the cost of musical instruments by, what, 2%?

Probably less

 

[thomsax]

But when it comes to economics, it's still a thousand times better to consult an economist than a politician.

On the other side the best finance minister in Sweden were/are well educated national economists. To know how the politic and laws works is also important.

 

[thomsax]

I think the price of a saxophone will follow the general price developmment. But who knows, a new roaring decade can be just around the corner, new big band era, modern versions of sax players like Wiedoeft, Getz, Coltrane, Parker, Brecker, King Curtis, Jr Walker, Clemons ... can raise the prices?

 

[Woodpad]

Sure. Fair enough. History is constructed, after all.

Confusius was against that idea, but his followers not that much.

 

[MarkSax]

Besides, the automakers are all "in bed" with each other. Lower end of Ford are generally Mazda, Chevrolet - Kia or Hyundai (both same manufacturer), Chrysler/Dodge - Fiat.

Mazda is now wholly Japanese owned. Kia/Hyundai are Korean owned and were never part of GM. You’re probably thinking Daewoo which is defunct now. Stellantis owns Chrysler and Fiat, the holding company is actually an Italian/French venture viz: Fiat and PSA(Peugeot/Citroen).
IMO at the lower end European cars are safer and drive better than US ones. Otherwise there’s little difference in interior quality or performance. Note that the philosophy behind car design is different. In the US it’s long distance comfort in straight lanes over distance whilst in Europe it’s smaller twistier roads for commuting. At the higher end UK and German luxury cars are much better in every aspect to US made Lincoln or Cadillacs. And in sports cars European makes have no competition apart from a certain Lexus. The Mustang/Corvette muscle car brigade is built on myth and a super powerful engine. The good thing is one can or could buy whatever they fancied pretty easily.
Since the end of the 1940s the West under the leadership of the USA moved their economies towards the most lucrative sectors of the economy. As such manufacturing is a low income segment which is why it became ‘Designed in EU/USA/JP’ and manufactured in Asia/SA because of cheap labour and cheaper infrastructure. 50 years ago it’d have been designed in the City of Detroit and made in Hicksville, Alabama. 70% of the price to Detroit and 30% to Hicksville. Now it’s 70% of the price goes to the West and 30% to elsewhere. With the move towards the most lucrative segments the population of the West was supposed to move upwards too, we had the best universities, technology, opportunities….etc. Except that a large part of our populations did not follow. As free trade and the Global economy expanded they found themselves at the bottom end of the economic ladder. Add to the mix opportunistic politicians with a sprinkling of xenophobia and you will find the soup we’re in at the moment.
I’m not being political, I’m just trying to be an impartial observer.

 

[ghostler]

Mazda is now wholly Japanese owned. Kia/Hyundai are Korean owned and were never part of GM.

My son's Ford Probe even had a label on the driver doorsil, "Made by Mazda". I was referring to stencil marketing.

Add to the mix opportunistic politicians with a sprinkling of xenophobia and you will find the soup we’re in at the moment.

I think we need a return to our saxophone sprinkling (practise). 😉