Saxophones conn 1933 transitional tenor sax

[eb424]

Did you ever get a 1933 transitional?

Sort off. Ive kind of bought one from the wind section. It's a 1932 /33. I think its in their workshop. Havent heard for a while. Wondering about suitabilty re split bell pads. I tend to play ( being short lol) with the custom z to the side of my right leg. Im wondering if ill have to change this. If i get it and I manage to sell the 32 alto i could have some work done on it..

 

[turf3]

I think the only real distinction to the fingers is that the side E on older Conns is flat (you know, like the Mark 6!) and of course it's a trivial job to put a cork ramp if you want it; and the distance between LH1 and bis Bb is greater. The LH table is subtly different.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with "ergonomics" of old Conns. I was playing my baritone yesterday and happened to stand in front of a big mirror. I looked at my hands - little fingers comfortably near the rest of the fingers, fingers gently curled and able to rest on the pearls, a small shift of the hands to hit side or palm keys. There is NOTHING wrong with the keyboards of these horns. (I have smallish hands for a full grown man.)

 

[eb424]

I think the only real distinction to the fingers is that the side E on older Conns is flat (you know, like the Mark 6!) and of course it's a trivial job to put a cork ramp if you want it; and the distance between LH1 and bis Bb is greater. The LH table is subtly different.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with "ergonomics" of old Conns. I was playing my baritone yesterday and happened to stand in front of a big mirror. I looked at my hands - little fingers comfortably near the rest of the fingers, fingers gently curled and able to rest on the pearls, a small shift of the hands to hit side or palm keys. There is NOTHING wrong with the keyboards of these horns. (I have smallish hands for a full grown man.)

it was only that on the yam theres no keys on the left..i rest this on my right thigh..don't know why....lol

 

[turf3]

it was only that on the yam theres no keys on the left..i rest this on my right thigh..don't know why....lol

That's what the key guards on the left are for. You're supposed to rest the left side of the horn on your right thigh, especially when sitting.

 

[Hankenstine]

Sort off. Ive kind of bought one from the wind section. It's a 1932 /33. I think its in their workshop. Havent heard for a while.

This one per chance? Looks good:

C.G. Conn 10m New Wonder II Transitional Tenor Saxophone (2nd Hand)

Ref: CS02098 All our second hand saxophones are cleaned and set-up in our workshop prior to sale, ensuring that the instrument arrives with you in first class condition. Not all instruments have been through the workshop before listing, so if ordering please allow a few extra days for us to get...

www.thewindsection.com

 

[eb424]

Hi

Thats it.... hopefully waiting for it to go through the workshop..

 

[PigSquealer]

Hi

Thats it.... hopefully waiting for it to go through the workshop..

Did you physically have it in your hands ? Verify the SN# ? The RH thumb rest is wrong for ‘33. It should have a pivoting thumb rest.
@turf3 @JayeNM does the neck look newer like off a 16m ?

 

[PigSquealer]

Did you ever get a 1933 transitional?

Do you have one on offer ?

 

[eb424]

Here you go:

Conn 10M Transitional Saxophone 1933

Conn 10M Transitional Saxophone 1933

www.hansonmusic.co.uk

I was after this one. Have you ever tried to contact Alastair. Great saxes Hansons...but...

 

[eb424]

Did you physically have it in your hands ? Verify the SN# ? The RH thumb rest is wrong for ‘33. It should have a pivoting thumb rest.
@turf3 @JayeNM does the neck look newer like off a 16m ?

Bit worried now tbf..

 

[PigSquealer]

Bit worried now tbf..

What were the arrangements ? Deposit and balance on completion, Trade-in ? Due date ?
Hard to tell by pictures alone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they started the service. Only to discover it needed double the work anticipated. Horns not fully serviced but listed is fishing for a customer. Otherwise they would have done the work proper and listed as such.
FWIW The Wind Section listing you were looking at on November 16th was not a split bell. The one at Hanson was.

 

[eb424]

Hi they will send it out for me to try cost free. Then pay if im happy. I couldnt get hold of Hansons re theirs and tbf it was 1000 more. I was told it was a 1932. Do appreciate your input tho. I was going to px the 25 i had off them it was great, but sold privately. I thought id be better off with this one and spending when the yas 32 sells if it needs it.

 

[Hankenstine]

Did you physically have it in your hands ? Verify the SN# ? The RH thumb rest is wrong for ‘33. It should have a pivoting thumb rest.
@turf3 @JayeNM does the neck look newer like off a 16m ?

I maybe wrong but I don't think the tenors had the pivoting thumb rest.

 

[Hankenstine]

Bit worried now tbf..

I just remembered that the owner of that Conn tenor posted about it on one of the UK saxophone facebook groups a while back. He said he was putting a few of his horns on commission at that Edinburgh shop. He described the Conn as "s/n 243k c1931".

See screen shot below:

 

[Pete Thomas]

Hi they will send it out for me to try cost free. Then pay if im happy.

That’s good because it could be a dog. The images shown are selective so you don’t get to see the bell engraving or the pinky table very well.

 

[Pete Thomas]

FWIW The Wind Section listing you were looking at on November 16th was not a split bell. The one at Hanson was.

Odd, maybe we are seeing different photos.

 

[eb424]

That’s good because it could be a dog. The images shown are selective so you don’t get to see the bell engraving or the pinky table very well.

Bit worriedvi wouldnt know the difference tbf

 

[Pete Thomas]

Bit worriedvi wouldnt know the difference tbf

Well the engraving is cosmetic of course, not so much of a quality issue. It’s presumably a relaquered horn anyway. For me the 10M Naked Lady style pinky table was a huge improvement over the NWII.

 

[eb424]

I'm a bit concerned ree the neck now. Does it seem cheap. There are only 2 exact 1933s the one at Hansons and one on e bay from a seller that doesnt reply. I was interested in this as it was close to 33. I may open my mind to a purchase from the decade she was born. Bless shed laugh at me..

 

[PigSquealer]

Odd, maybe we are seeing different photos.

@eb424 sent me the Wind Section listing of what I posted on post #31.

C.G. Conn 'Lady-face' Tenor Saxophone (2nd Hand)Default Title

Ref: CS02062 All our second hand saxophones are cleaned and set-up in our workshop prior to sale, ensuring that the instrument arrives with you in first class condition. Not all instruments have been through the workshop before listing, so if ordering please allow a few extra days for us to get...

www.thewindsection.com

Maybe they have two on offer ?