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Afternoon , just picked up my new tenor sax 1932 Conn Transitional original case nice , original brass end plug , plays like a dream easy blow mellow and beefy all in one. It has the naked lady engraving on it serial number is 253 serial number . When did chu tenors go to transitional and then to 10m ?

Anyone got this year and any comments on them
 
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I'm no expert but I think it was 1931-32
 
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Keep in mind that all these designations are made up after the fact by collectors, not by Conn.

First of all the "Chu" tenor is a very late New Wonder or very early Artist - curved high E, but bell keys on opposite sides. That's the horn chu was photographed with in the very famous portrait. I don't think anyone really knows whether that's the horn he really played all the time; it probably is, but he could well have borrowed a better-looking horn from a buddy for the picture, or he might have just bought the new one but all his playing and recording was on an older one; no one knows.

Secondly, collectors, not the Conn company, have decided to call the second series New Wonder the "Chu" because it superficially resembles the horn Chu was holding in his famous portrait.

Thirdly, the introduction of the later features occurred intermittently and it wasn't always a straight progression. I have seen horns with the basic late mechanism (you can tell the stack mechanism especially around the high F and bis key) but with bell keys on opposite sides. I have seen horns with fork Eb long after you'd think it was gone. I've seen horns with all kinds of variants of left hand tables. Engraving isn't a real good guide either.

Unless you measure the tube you can't say whether what you've got is acoustically a New Wonder or a 10M Artist. Since they're darn close anyway and both have that essential Conn character, I'd not worry about what some collectors have decided to call it 90 years after the fact.
 
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Afternoon , just picked up my new tenor sax 1932 Conn Transitional original case nice , original brass end plug , plays like a dream easy blow mellow and beefy all in one. It has the naked lady engraving on it serial number is 253 serial number . When did chu tenors go to transitional and then to 10m ?

Anyone got this year and any comments on them
This should confuse you nicely.
Keep in mind this is not an absolute. Think of it more as a guide.
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Something that a lot of people tend to forget is that Conn had a factory to run. They had less than zero concern about keeping everything matching for the benefit of collectors 90 years in the future. If they found a batch of anachronistic parts, they had to choose - throw away (waste $$) or use them on this week's production? Guess which gets chosen most often.
 
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First of all the "Chu" tenor is a very late New Wonder or very early Artist - curved high E, but bell keys on opposite sides. That's the horn chu was photographed with in the very famous portrait. I don't think anyone really knows whether that's the horn he really played all the time; it probably is, but he could well have borrowed a better-looking horn from a buddy for the picture, or he might have just bought the new one but all his playing and recording was on an older one; no one knows.

Secondly, collectors, not the Conn company, have decided to call the second series New Wonder the "Chu" because it superficially resembles the horn Chu was holding in his famous portrait

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Hankenstine

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Congratulations on your new horn!
 

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