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delboy1961
Last reply · posted in Can be deleted?
Sorry guys I thought I could post vids via this so consider post closed
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del try www.musictownweb.com
delboy1961
I will try that site sometime thank you
D
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Hi, everyone! While I am a new member here, I’ve been involved in sax forums since 2006. I’m a retired music teacher and have played tenor sax for 50+ years. I still have the old Buescher in the closet in favor of my MKVI. Like many others, I have a bit of GAS (gear acquisition syndrome), so I seem to be dangerous to my bank account. I look forward to the discussion and insights on the forum with all of you!
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PiccoloPirate
Welcome aboard from South Florida.

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I was once near Alaska, flying in the right seat of a B52, at about 40k.
I could see Russia looking forward, before making a U-turn.
Blue skies now just Blue water. 😍
D
Welcome aboard from South Florida.

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I was once near Alaska, flying in the right seat of a B52, at about 40k.
I could see Russia looking forward, before making a U-turn.
Blue skies now just Blue water. 😍
I lived in Nome for 5 years. U-turns are still common along the International date line😉
I heard stories from locals that back in the day Soviet MiGs would fly low under the radar across the Bering Sea, pop up to wave “Hello” and drop back down as they were chased all the way to tomorrow.
J
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Miscellaneous  New to the site!

Hi,
I’m Jay and I’ve just joined. Looking forward to interacting with members.
Have a great day!
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PiccoloPirate
JayL,
Are you Superman's father, from Krypton?
PigSquealer
JayL,
Are you Superman's father, from Krypton?
That’s Jor-EL not JayL 🤦‍♂️.
I’ll have one of whatever you’re drinking 🤪
PiccoloPirate
Total confusion since the Bum and linguistics threads.
Correct me please:
His Dad is called Jor-El in California
and in anyplace named Melbourne,
he's JayL? 🙄
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Tales from a pig that likes to stick his nose into everything.

Paint that S. How difficult could it be ?
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1) Search the net.
2) Find the color.
3) Order color.
4) Study task on University of YouTube, aka; For destruction by DYI presented by pro tech.
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Do the cleaning & prep.
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Paint and cleanup / detail the edges with hard cotton swabs. Sounds easy……:confused:
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Yeah tha guy Matt makes it look easy.
Anyone remember your first experience cooking bacon crispy while still in the frying pan !
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PigSquealer
To final finish the areas I used a machine shop technique called scraping. Not for DIY use. This is difficult even with experience.
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After scraping, the area was burnished with 0000 steel wool @ 90°. Area cleaned well (NO surface grit / dirt) Then burnished with hand burnisher. Finish with silver polish.
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All twenty something locations done by hand.
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PigSquealer
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Keep in mind this is just the solder cleanup stage. A full polish is on order too.
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Still work in progress.
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Jeanette
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Miscellaneous  Daily Check In

Good morning,

We thought it might be good to have a thread where you can just come and say hi, tell us what you are doing today, have a moan, share an idea that you wouldn't necessarily start a thread for ( we can always create a new thread from posts here if it became a substantial discussion).

It doesn't have to be sax related🙂

Basically an easy way to connect on a daily basis.

So to kick us off, I am writing this whilst prepping a casserole for the slo cooker as I am playing sax today with café sax and need a quick easy tea when I get home.

I am still suffering with a cough which will impact my playing today and I am worried as we are playing our first care home gig next Sunday!!

Have a lovely Sunday

Jx
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MikeMorrell
I got (nicely) fooled this evening! I'd finished my 'volunteer shift' at BredaPhoto and took 2 buses home. As I was getting on the 2nd bus, the driver said "Hey Mike, how are you doing?". I looked at him but didn't recognise his face. Which occasionally happens when I meet people I've briefly met before but in a completely different 'context'. So I said "I'm doing fine, how are you?" Other passengers were also boarding so I moved on and sat down.

But I kept thinking "He obviously knows me, but I don't recognize him at all". So I went back up to the driver to try and clear up my confusion and mild discomfort. So I said something like "I'm sorry, you obviously know me but I can't for the life of me recall when we met. Perhaps in a different situation?". He said "No, I don't think so, I've been a bus driver for years". And then added "I have to start my ride now ..."

So I sat there for another 5 minutes before it dawned on me: I was wearing a 'BredaPhoto volunteer T-shirt'. With a 'name button' with "Mike" (which I'd completely forgotten about!). When the 'penny dropped', I started laughing and shouted out 'Good One!' to the driver.

He'd obviously simply read my 'name badge' as I boarded and carried on the conversation as if he 'knew me'. Leaving me to figure out the 'clue'. His sense of humour made my day!

Mike
PigSquealer
Out walking the Dug this afternoon he discovered these.
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Several people in the neighborhood leave baskets of seasonal fruit curbside. That’s $50 worth of pomegranates.
ESJohn
Last reply · posted in Saxophones: gear, playing, repair, impro

Playing the saxophone  "Bring Out"

One of our tunes for the Christmas season is A Charlie Brown Christmas (arr. Paul Murtha). Of course, one of the selections is "Christmastime is here" and I have a soli with another instrument for the phrase

Oh, that we could always see
Such spirit through the year

I don't know what other instrument is playing as I've been concentrating on hearing the sound coming out of my horn.
It's easy and enjoyable to play except that I'm thrown off by the instructions by Murtha to "bring out". Does that mean the same as mf or f? Or is it referring more to the feeling of the melody at that moment? And if that is the case, how would I accomplish that? Our director has made no comments on it, but I haven't taken the time to ask her, either. Just curious as to your thoughts. Thanks!
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Gandalfe
I always bring up the volume on solos and in my whole career, no director asked me to play quieter. I also often mark interesting and fun parts of my chart as SOLO so that I will bring it out to be heard over the often thundering herd. Again, no director has ever asked me to play softer. But I do get a *lot* of "bring it out a little louder" queues from the big band director when I play bari.
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ESJohn
I always bring up the volume on solos and in my whole career, no director asked me to play quieter.
I always brought out the solos by picking up the volume
In the five years that I've been in the NHB, the words "you're too loud" were heard repeatedly by the band members. Our director for all of those years is now retired, but the words are very much ingrained in our brains. Only on rare occasions would anyone hear instructions otherwise, and generally those were the trombones. We would receive instructions for the majority of the band to play softer so that if a section or soloist was playing, they could be heard better. We're under different leadership now, so those words aren't uttered very often.
'Christmastime is here' is the last part of the medley. It's cool to be an important part of the what the audience will remember more than the songs that don't make up the beginning or the end. I also have a very nice part (along with many others) during what would be, lyrically, 'Christmastime is here'. I have four measures that have two beats of rest, and then alternating B and Ab, which I try to play softly in the background supporting the melody. These four measures are repeated, as is the soli.
I will do my best to be heard above the others without being obnoxious.
ghostler
Normally if the conductor has full control of the band, the members shouldn't have anything to say about your dynamics except to mention if there is an intonation problem.

Playing too loud is usually directed at the brass because they can easily overblow the woodwinds. This is true also of saxes if not careful.

You got a new conductor who appears to be bigger on balance. Sounds like your band is turning over a new leaf, better horizons ahead. I'd forget the past and move on.
aldevis
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Miscellaneous  watches

Before I subscribe a forum about watches, where I will realize that only expensive pieces made in 1962-63 are worth wearing,
is anyone knowledgeable about automatic watches and straps?
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Grumps
We have a jewelry store out in one of the nearby suburbs that has a fairly decent choice of watch brands and they have their own event each Fall where they'll have brand representatives come to talk about their watches and they'll set up a tent for free oysters on the half shell and give out swag bags. My wife and I went last year and got a good look at the place and had a pretty good time. The highlight of the event is a sort of costume party, where you "dress to the nines" matching your favorite watch and you get to give a one minute spiel to win a prize. Last year that prize was a $3,200 Fortis watch, but they gave out plenty of other nice prizes as well. And this year? I'm gonna win one.

So put yourself in my place. Which of your watches would you go on about and what would you wear? Some of the costumes I saw last year were pretty impressive. One guy came as an airplane and for sure they'll be someone in an astronaut getup. My idea is a bit more simple and is geared to plug for this store I have absolutely no relationship with. I don't expect to win the top prize, but I should place. And yeah, I'm not telling at this point what I'm planning, but what would you guys do? If you dared:

Colin the Bear
A shop putting on free events is charging too much. imo
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Grumps
A shop putting on free events is charging too much. imo
Well perhaps now, if it wasn't clear before, I should point out that I'll likely never buy a watch from these folks, or anything else for that matter; though I'll give them every opportunity while I'm there to convince me otherwise. I'm just scheming to win a prize, eat free oysters and take home swag. Plus, I get to see watches I'd always wanted to see. Like Norqain last year. I saw them and I hated them. Win-win.

I've come to realize that every watch I own, but for two somewhat frugal cruise expenditures, were purchased new at the lowest price I'd ever seen for what I bought; then and now. I ain't gonna be able to make such deals at a shop like this. But again... if I see something I'd like to buy, they will have every opportunity to sell it to me; but at my price, not theirs.
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PigSquealer
I'm not telling at this point what I'm planning, but what would you guys do? If you dared:
I’m guessing you’re going as a Nationals fan wearing a Ravens watch.
I would go as a Pig playing on C sax with high hopes to win a Seiko Metronome.
ESJohn
Last reply · posted in Breakfastroom (chat and relax...)

Humor  Today's memory

I've got to share this with everyone. My wife and I exercise twice weekly at the Cleveland Clinic medical center near us. The building houses facilities for physical therapy, sports medicine, a fitness center and a stat care facility. One entrance is generally used by the stat care patients and vice-versa.
Today, we were about to open the interior door that leads to the fitness center when an elderly gentleman using a walker and moving slowly, was coming through on his way to the exit. I noticed the t-shirt that he was wearing, which stated:
"I may be old, but I got to see all of the cool bands!" The shirt also had a sax framing the words to one side. It made me laugh, and I told him how much I enjoyed reading it. As much as he had difficulty raising his head, he looked at me and replied "Rock On!"
God bless him! He made my day!
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D
Last reply · posted in Saxophones: gear, playing, repair, impro

Playing the saxophone  Double Lip Professionals

This might not be well known.

Who are recording / touring professionals that are double lip players?

Or anyone playing to an audience. However, I thought it'd be interesting to learn the names of players we knew from recordings and concerts.

Not meant to debate technique merits. But I won't storm out if you do.

Finally, is DOUBLE LIPPER a term? Hopefully that won't get me barred.
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Pete Thomas
I believe Lee Allen used a double lip embouchure.

Finally, is DOUBLE LIPPER a term? Hopefully that won't get me barred.
I haven't heard the term, but it's obvious what it means in the context of saxophone or clarinet playing so why not. I don't understand why it would get you barred though.
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I haven't heard the term, but it's obvious what it means in the context of saxophone or clarinet playing so why not. I don't understand why it would get you barred though.
Because I really appreciate you and the Cafe Pete Thomas and I'm never sure how something might be taken as naughty. Probably my mind is the problem. Thank you!
Jeanette
Because I really appreciate you and the Cafe Pete Thomas and I'm never sure how something might be taken as naughty. Probably my mind is the problem. Thank you!
We don't bar people very often and certainly not without a conversation first 🙂

Jx
KMSRI
Hi all,

I'm currently reworking my set up, thanks for some health and DENTAL problems. All the above is helpful. Thanks
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Pete Thomas
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Miscellaneous  Music Land - Walt Disney

Very clever, cute but (obviously) dated 1935 animation. A war between "jazz" and "classical" but I'm not sure purists would agree wit either term. Still it's fun

View: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jjqb5
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Tuppertn
Ah, those were...different times.

Even back then AI didn't know how to draw a saxophone.😉
ghostler
Movie ending, think we could use the Bridge of Harmony in our discussions? 😉
mizmar
Last reply · posted in Saxophones: gear, playing, repair, impro

Playing the saxophone  Falling from Altisimo A?

In an arrangement of Oye Como Va, by Johnny Ferreira we have

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DFDFDFA on the second register, then at the top.

I'm just about stable on D to altisimo A - good exercise for me!

But G is quite far away, fungering wise..
My best alt A is L23+a side key.

How would you approach the fall?

Thanks.
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Pete Effamy
Just lip.
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Pete Thomas
Just lip.
Yes, relax your jaw.
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mizmar
Hummm, gonna have to work on that to avoid stray overtones...
mpjbiker
Last reply · posted in Saxophones: gear, playing, repair, impro
Anyone using one on tenor? What are your impressions and thoughts? Cheers!
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Tuppertn
My impression is that it's expensive. In fact, so expensive that I can't give you a playing impression.

Life would be so much better if I could afford one.

I'd sit out on my veranda overlooking the vineyards around the Seine and fondle my DV Chi while my servants fanned me and fed me grapes.
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r. giuseppe
Price was not that crazy when I bought it 20 years (?) ago. If it comforts you: The best mouthpiece I ever had (for me) is half the price…
skeller047
Last reply · posted in Breakfastroom (chat and relax...)

Miscellaneous  What is “Politics”?

In the current thread on AI, Pete reminded us to keep politics out of the discussion, and to put side queries in another thread. So here is the side query…

When does a discussion become political? If something is an important societal topic (e.g., the state of music education, or the emergence of AI), there are certain to be politicians and government employees involved somehow. (Well, maybe not in music education, more’s the pity.) I’d like some clarity and perhaps a discussion on where the line is.

Case in point - government involvement in and support of health care. In most of the developed world, this is a non-issue. In the USA it’s a political hot potato. But this topic is important culturally and socially. Studies on strategies for extending lifespan. What tests to get, and where and how to get them. Seeking advice on a particular health condition. Etc. Here in the US, this can stray very easily into political waters - because of the various money, power and philosophical opinions around the subject.

So if I say “I think taxpayer funds should be used to provide a sensible baseline of health care support for everyone”, is that political? Or do I have to add something about a particular politician, or perhaps discuss specific legislation, to make it cross the line? “Joe Blow is an idiot because he thinks Medicare should be cancelled.”

I ask because topics like AI and healthcare affect us all, both as musicians and as humans in society. (Also as saxophonists, because some AI systems seem to think one needs 7 or 8 fingers per hand to play one!)

In the current discussion of AI, which is important IMO, there are obvious cultural and societal implications around the uses of AI. And these very easily stray into discussions of current political topics because various governments and government agencies are actively involved. Some guidelines on where to draw the boundaries of the discussion would be helpful.
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Colin the Bear
Politics. Where ideology supercedes facts.
Grumps
Politics. Where ideology supercedes facts.
Or like the very first post here, innocently advocating what to do with other people's money. But hey, it's not political because that makes good sense, right? Everyone's for health, right? Not inflammatory. As if...

But therein lies the rub. Folks being political see their political pronouncements as just restating the norm. It is correct, therefore they are justified and they are compelled to tell people. Folks need to listen and agree. And if you don't? Self-reflection is out the window. Instead, they'll put a red hat on you; and most ignorantly so.
skeller047
Or like the very first post here, innocently advocating what to do with other people's money. But hey, it's not political because that makes good sense, right? Everyone's for health, right? Not inflammatory. As if...

But therein lies the rub. Folks being political see their political pronouncements as just restating the norm. It is correct, therefore they are justified and they are compelled to tell people. Folks need to listen and agree. And if you don't? Self-reflection is out the window. Instead, they'll put a red hat on you; and most ignorantly so.
Well, that was not what I meant, sorry you took it that way. The line you objected to was in quotes, as an example; I was not stating my opinion. I have one 🙂, and will be happy to discuss it in person in January when I see you (I hope).

The fact that you, an obviously intelligent person, misunderstood my post just highlights the problem that Pete and Jeanette struggle with daily. In text, it's difficult to express subtle distinctions that would be obvious in a face-to-face situation.

What "makes sense" to one person can be "completely off base" to another; it depends on their experience and upbringing, and (perhaps less) on their natural proclivities. I wish it were easier to accept other people's idiotic opinions, but it just isn't....
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Jeanette
wish it were easier to accept other people's idiotic opinions, but it just isn't....
But what you think is idiotic, someone else will not. And that my friends is where the problems start....

It's that type of language that starts a trail of posts to be deleted.😘


Jx
skeller047
But what you think is idiotic, someone else will not. And that my friends is where the problems start....

It's that type of language that starts a trail of posts to be deleted.😘


Jx
Yes - that illustrates exactly the problems you face. That line was delivered with tongue firmly in cheek...
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Jeanette
Yes - that illustrates exactly the problems you face. That line was delivered with tongue firmly in cheek...
Emojis can help get that point across 😏😘
Jeanette
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Miscellaneous  Too Hot to Handle

An article on the news tonight caught my attention.

They were discussing how hot drinks are implicated in oesophageal cancer. It's a specific type of cancer and

Very hot drinks may damage the food pipe and increase cancer risk

As someone who likes their tea and coffee hot, I might be best leaving it a few minutes to cool.

Do you drink your brew hot?

Jx
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The all time champeen.

Service life is measured in centuries.
skeller047
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The all time champeen.

Service life is measured in centuries.
The modern equivalent:
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Me, I am a fan of electricity….
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The modern equivalent:
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Me, I am a fan of electricity….
The thing about that one is you have to grip it hard in the non-cranking hand, whereas the old reliable Spong either clamps to the edge of the table or is screwed to the wall.

Every morning when I was a boy one of my chores was to grind the morning coffee for my parents. (I was too young to drink coffee.) It only took two or three minutes to measure out the beans and grind 'em.
skeller047
The thing about that one is you have to grip it hard in the non-cranking hand, whereas the old reliable Spong either clamps to the edge of the table or is screwed to the wall.

Every morning when I was a boy one of my chores was to grind the morning coffee for my parents. (I was too young to drink coffee.) It only took two or three minutes to measure out the beans and grind 'em.
That particular one can grind 20 grams of coffee in 49 seconds, according to a reviewer. 20 grams is a typical amount for a large pour-over cup, and is more than the typical espresso shot.

In comparison, my new grinder grinds that amount (actually about 22.5 grams) in less than 15 seconds, at a fine pour-over grind setting. That is why I am a fan of electricity. And I also have an electric fan (I needed it today!)

Your story is nice, though it borders on child abuse. Why make the kid grind ‘em if he can’t drink ‘em???? I mean, kids in South America (Brazil and Colombia) start with coffee and milk as young as 6 or 7…. I started drinking coffee while on fishing trips with my dad and grandfather. I was 11 or 12.
PigSquealer
That particular one can grind 20 grams of coffee in 49 seconds, according to a reviewer. 20 grams is a typical amount for a large pour-over cup, and is more than the typical espresso shot.

In comparison, my new grinder grinds that amount (actually about 22.5 grams) in less than 15 seconds, at a fine pour-over grind setting.
I assume you’re working from roasted beans ? Did you actually measure grams output & time duration ? Hope you didn’t get cheated with false advertising.
That is why I am a fan of electricity. And I also have an electric fan (I needed it today!)
You’re good until the grid pops a fuse. Even with those big arse windmills close by. Stuff happens !
Fan on today ? IIRC you’re close to the shoreline? I’d guess 75° is roasting hot ?
Your story is nice, though it borders on child abuse. Why make the kid grind ‘em if he can’t drink ‘em???? I mean, kids in South America (Brazil and Colombia) start with coffee and milk as young as 6 or 7…. I started drinking coffee while on fishing trips with my dad and grandfather. I was 11 or 12.
Humm, I remember being assigned chores around the household at an early age. Like maintaining the kitchen waste bin at 5. I also remember doing extra effort work. The reward. “A cup of coffee with Dad on Saturday morning”.
I need to look in my box of family photos and notes saved from my mom. It think there’s a document of this event.
ghostler
You’re good until the grid pops a fuse. Even with those big arse windmills close by.
Spoke with the local power company rep who visited us at work one day, about 23 years ago. Topic of wind energy came up. Year before in the heat of July, they had to run their coal fired plants and natural gas turbines on full because their wind farm at White Deer about 40 miles northeast of Amarillo wasn't able to fill the void because there was insufficient wind. Air conditioning demand was very high.

Utility grade turbines then required at least 15 mph winds to produce utility grade power.
It was 95 in San Francisco, and 93 on the coast where I live on Wednesday. Along the bay shore, it hit 100 in a few places, and it went to 110 inland. The Bay Area has what are called “micro-climates”. It’s not uncommon to see a 40 degree difference in temperature in places 30-40 miles apart.
Yes, I remembered that. Back in the 1980's, it wasn't unusual for the temps to be below 60ºF (16ºC) in July in Presideo, San Francisco mid day. Yet in Fresno across the Bay, it would be up in the 90ºF's (32ºC+).

Here in the high desert of Eastern New Mexico, we are lower in humidity and 40ºF (22ºC) temperature difference between night and day is the norm.
skeller047
Spoke with the local power company rep who visited us at work one day, about 23 years ago. Topic of wind energy came up. Year before in the heat of July, they had to run their coal fired plants and natural gas turbines on full because their wind farm at White Deer about 40 miles northeast of Amarillo wasn't able to fill the void because there was insufficient wind. Air conditioning demand was very high.

Utility grade turbines then required at least 15 mph winds to produce utility grade power.

Yes, I remembered that. Back in the 1980's, it wasn't unusual for the temps to be below 60ºF (16ºC) in July in Presideo, San Francisco mid day. Yet in Fresno across the Bay, it would be up in the 90ºF's (32ºC+).

Here in the high desert of Eastern New Mexico, we are lower in humidity and 40ºF (22ºC) temperature difference between night and day is the norm.
Yes, Fresno is "across the bay" - in the sense that it is a couple hundred miles south east of San Francisco. Walnut Creek, on the other hand, is only 30-some miles, and is often 30-40° F hotter than the city. The combination of a small mountain range and a strong off-shore marine layer makes for a lot of variation.

Where I live in Pacifica, I am near a mountainous point that extends 1/4 mile or so into the ocean, forming a small bay. As a result, the coastal fog is often blocked from coming into the bay, and temperature at my house is 5°+ higher than on the point, a mere 20 minute walk away. It can be sunny at my place, but totally socked in on the point. Local conditions rule the weather here.

Having just spent a week in Palm Springs I am aware of the day-night temperature difference you live with. You are welcome to it 🙂
ghostler
Yes, Fresno is "across the bay" - in the sense that it is a couple hundred miles south east of San Francisco.
By bad, goes to show how long ago I lived in California, (left CA in early 1990's) meant Oakland and east of it Stockton.
Grumps
Last reply · posted in Saxophones: gear, playing, repair, impro
The dates have been announced for the 2027 International Saxophone Symposium hosted by the Navy Band at George Mason University: January 8-9.

Plan your trip now if you're coming from afar.
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Grumps
The visiting headline guest performers have been announced. Not surprisingly... I don't know any of them:
Nicolas Prost
~Nois
Christopher Creviston
Ben Wendel
Ryan Devlin
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skeller047
I know of Ben Wendel and Ryan Devlin. Both very good modern players, Ryan is noted for his very energetic "outside" playing, and Ben wrote a great book on playing altissimo. Ben is also deeply into electronics; he did a very interesting interview with Rick Beato on YouTube a few months ago. I look forward to meeting both of them.
mizmar
Last reply · posted in Breakfastroom (chat and relax...)
Inspired by the convolution of the Show us your pet and Help a Hedgehog threads...

Here's one from another thread;

Red Squirrel
(They exist in Norway)


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Wonko
On the ferry from Arran to Troon we saw a bunch of dolphins this morning. Lovely sight!
This is a frame from the film my wife took of them
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LarryS
On the ferry from Arran to Troon we saw a bunch of dolphins this morning. Lovely sight!
This is a frame from the film my wife took of them
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Bottlenoses I think. Cool

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