Mouthpieces types of hard rubber mouthpieces

[eb424]

Hmmm, no. It really does nothing to explain what you are talking about. What do you mean by “projection”?

I guess in this example the ability to play cressendo and the mouthpiece going with me. I have more breath but the piece won't get any louder. It cuts off. Not the reed but the ability to get louder..

 

[Pete Thomas]

I guess in this example the ability to play cressendo and the mouthpiece going with me. I have more breath but the piece won't get any louder. It cuts off. Not the reed but the ability to get louder.

That’s what I would call dynamics. You need to pace yourself so you don’t get to your loudest while there is still a need to get louder.

 

[eb424]

Teacher huh..wrong term..thank you

 

[Pete Thomas]

Teacher huh..wrong term..thank you

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[Dr G]

I guess in this example the ability to play cressendo and the mouthpiece going with me. I have more breath but the piece won't get any louder. It cuts off. Not the reed but the ability to get louder..

That’s what I would call dynamics. You need to pace yourself so you don’t get to your loudest while there is still a need to get louder.

Both can be true. The mouthpiece will have a limit, but some mouthpieces can certainly get louder than others. Embouchure and air stream control can certainly influence the efficiency of sound production - I am confident that I could use your mouthpiece and get significantly louder.

As Pete comments, once you have found your minimum and maximum bounds of loudness, it is up to you as the player to define pianissimo and fortissimo. Play within those bounds to optimize your range of expression.

Since you, @eb424, mentioned “projection”, I consider that to be a measure of how well I fill space with my sound - it is not the same as volume/loudness. Another metric of sound is “intensity”. These are all parameters to explore regarding musical interpretation and performance.

Above all else, enjoy the path. Always be musical.

 

[thomsax]

I think "tone and sound" can be solved with taking some lesson/instructions from a vocal instructor/coach. Learn to sing and use the singing technique when you play your sax.

@eb424 you are already a singing saxohoonist and I understand your problem.

 

[eb424]

I think "tone and sound" can be solved with taking some lesson/instructions from a vocal instructor/coach. Learn to sing and use the singing technique when you play your sax.

Pmsl..I can just about force my self saxually ( had to check for typos).. No one deserves to hear me sing..

 

[Pete Thomas]

I think "tone and sound" can be solved with taking some lesson/instructions from a vocal instructor/coach. Learn to sing and use the singing technique when you play your sax.

I think this has a lot of value. I was never very good at singing but at one stage I did have a few lessons and I’m sure it helped my saxophone sound.

 

[thomsax]

Learn to sing and use the singing technique when you play your sax.

Ok, learn to "sing" and use the "singing techmique" when your play your sax.

I took some short "classes" from an opera singer (my music teacher when I was 16) and he taught me basic singing techniques and -excecises. It helped me. He even taught me how to phrase and articulate the words that I sang. Even if the lyrics we all sing is the same we have different ways to "project" the words. IMO big differences between a sax player who is playing dots and reading from sheet music or a sax player who is playing words .... . I don't write better or worse.

We can all sing ......

 

[eb424]

Sound advice as usual @thomsax..

I cant play from dots have to break the words down into notation..has at least shown the importance of them. Even if i still cant get the hang of this darn thing..lol

 

[thomsax]

You can try to do some "call and responce". You can do it with a singer (singing the sining lines ad lib and you repeat what the singer sang). You can do it with another saxplayer as well. This is my favourite recording: "Purple Vain" (Red Prysock on tenor, Zack Wright on baritone. The saxes play with volume. I often wonder what R&B, Rock & Roll would be without the baritone? Lee Allen - Red Tyler/Steve Berlin, King Curtis - Floyd Newman/Heywood Henry, Big Jay McNeely - Rob McNeely, lots Motown artists/recordings - Mike Terry ..... and many more godd baritone players. To play baritone riffs is a good way to learn to play Rock & Roll tenorsax. A steady even tone, the neccesary repeatition, to make a sold ground for the music .... it's very much what Rock & Roll saxophone is about. You don't need a baritone to play bari lines. Lots of off topic writing .. but I think most of the bari players above were on hardrubber mouthpieces!

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