Mouthpieces types of hard rubber mouthpieces

[eb424]

It's either tip size, facing length or embouchure/breath support. You'd need a good teacher to diagnose that. It's not a generic fault with the mouthpiece

Do all mouthpieces take as much air as you can give them then. I have air left but it wont project any more

 

[Pete Thomas]

I have air left but it wont project any more

I'm not totally sure what you mean. If you mean how loud it can go, my answer would be the same as above - depends on tip + facing, air support, embouchure and reed.

My preference on tenor is for larger tips/shorter facings plus soft reeds

yep caught out in the cafe court again...British humour huh...can see the newspaper headlines now, off the cuff comment exposed as non scientific experiment...good seller

Perhaps make it more obvious when its humor?

 

[GCinCT]

of course, also different size mouthpieces, different reed strength, dare I say different ligs, different instruments. TBF the thread was about differences "I" found and last time I checked "I" was the same person. Also not about whether the JJ was a bright or dark ( Pleeeeease no) mouthpiece but whether a shiny rubber piece plays different than a dull rubber piece...in a light hearted way...😉

I was not commenting on the shiny vs. dull thing. I understand that was tongue-in-cheek. You stated that you found the JJ to be "dull and not resonant." I was saying my experience has been quite different. Same mouthpiece, two different players. Our unique physiology, playing experience, and air support are bigger factors than reeds, instruments, and certainly ligatures.

 

[Dr G]

On a serious ( yet unsubstantiated/ proven note). Playing the JJ HR* I noticed that it kind of has a shut off point. I used a range of reeds up to 3s but could not project enough to cressendo on CBs youre my world. Would could that be chamber or tip size. It is a 6* with green Javas no 3.

Do all mouthpieces take as much air as you can give them then. I have air left but it wont project any more

@eb424 It seems you’ve done that experiment. But how do you know that it is not “projecting” any more? How do you measure that?

 

[Pete Thomas]

How do you measure that?

After 50 years of playing, I still don’t really know what anyone means by projecting.

 

[Dr G]

After 50 years of playing, I still don’t really know what anyone means by projecting.

And that’s why I am asking @eb424 for his definition. I am happy to share my concept of it after I hear from him.

Hint: If you are playing into a microphone or in a small space, it doesn’t apply.

 

[eb424]

I was not commenting on the shiny vs. dull thing. I understand that was tongue-in-cheek. You stated that you found the JJ to be "dull and not resonant." I was saying my experience has been quite different. Same mouthpiece, two different players. Our unique physiology, playing experience, and air support are bigger factors than reeds, instruments, and certainly ligatures.

Think that was the other poster..

 

[eb424]

And that’s why I am asking @eb424 for his definition. I am happy to share my concept of it after I hear from him.

Hint: If you are playing into a microphone or in a small space, it doesn’t apply.

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[GCinCT]

No, it was you. "The JJhr* is made of the duller hard rubber and has a sound to match, not dull but much less resonant." Your words. Come on, Eddie, own up to something. People are trying to help you.

 

[GCinCT]

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How is that a definition of "projection?"

 

[eb424]

No, it was you. "The JJhr* is made of the duller hard rubber and has a sound to match, not dull but much less resonant." Your words. Come on, Eddie, own up to something. People are trying to help you.

Ill own it but thats not what i meant entirely. The only word I can use to describe it i that the Vandoren sounded well.. brittle. Thats what i mean by resonant. As though the reed was to soft. By not dull I guess I mean less brittle or warmer. Im not always so good with what i mean or puntuation. Like trying to help uncle jack of a horse..as oppossed to trying to help uncle jack, of a horse..s small but important difference..

 

[eb424]

How is that a definition of "projection?"

Its not im tring to reply to Dr Gs post kind off covers it

 

[eb424]

And that’s why I am asking @eb424 for his definition. I am happy to share my concept of it after I hear from him.

Hint: If you are playing into a microphone or in a small space, it doesn’t apply.

 

[GCinCT]

Ill own it but thats not what i meant entirely. The only word I can use to describe it i that the Vandoren sounded well.. brittle. Thats what i mean by resonant. As though the reed was to soft. By not dull I guess I mean less brittle or warmer. Im not always so good with what i mean or puntuation. Like trying to help uncle jack of a horse..as oppossed to trying to help uncle jack, of a horse..s small but important difference..

I know what you meant. I was just saying that I have a different experience. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's to be expected. We are all different, and in my opinion, it helps make the world a better place.

 

[GCinCT]

Is there anyone on the forum who😉 speaks "Eddie" and can translate?

 

[eb424]

So trying to play the line with your hands resting in mine...I feel a power so divine. Cressendo. I can manage on the link but struggle on the JJ even tho i whisper st the point

 

[eb424]

Is there anyone on the forum who😉 speaks "Eddie" and can translate?

Nooop.. ya all posh lol..no one talks cockney...

 

[GCinCT]

So trying to play the line with your hands resting in mine...I feel a power so divine. Cressendo. I can manage on the link but struggle on the JJ even tho i whisper st the point

Fair enough. That was quite elegantly put. Credit where credit is due.

 

[GCinCT]

Nooop.. ya all posh lol..no one talks cockney...

I actually love the Cockney dialect. I have more respect for you. It's us working class folks, who are the backbone of society. I'm a Brooklyn boy myself. The real Brooklyn, not the hipster part.

 

[Dr G]

Its not im tring to reply to Dr Gs post kind off covers it

Hmmm, no. It really does nothing to explain what you are talking about. What do you mean by “projection”?