Saxophones New Baritone any tips

[Punchysax]

Welcome ! The baritone is the ideal horn to improve at least 2 essential skills:
1. Air support
2. Relaxed embouchure
If you can, blow A LOT of air, make that thing sound like hell. Long tones, or just real music, slow enough (ballads) so you can hear your sound. Find out how you can really relax your embouchure.
Surprise, you’ll improve your ability to whisper on the big horn.
In my case, it helped to move to less bite on all horns, clarinet included. And to push air even when playing pianissimo.
Great horn all the way.

Thank you yes loving the horn any suggested Bari ballads ? as I am a ballad man

 

[dexdex]

Thank you yes loving the horn any suggested Bari ballads ? as I am a ballad man

Well, I suppose any could do it. More than a specific song, my inspiration for ballads on the big horn is Nick Brignola. Subtone, range, phrases, he had it all.
Oh man, I’m getting tears just by listening to this version again. 😶💦

View: https://youtu.be/aCVrubDWPng?si=PotolF37rIHi_Ug8

 

[Punchysax]

Well, I suppose any could do it. More than a specific song, my inspiration for ballads on the big horn is Nick Brignola. Subtone, range, phrases, he had it all.
Oh man, I’m getting tears just by listening to this version again. 😶💦

View: https://youtu.be/aCVrubDWPng?si=PotolF37rIHi_Ug8

Beautiful sound wonderful , I’m hooked and I’m delighted I have discovered the Bari horn, question can I use the same sheet books and backing tracks I use for my alto sax for Bari as both same key ?

 

[dexdex]

Beautiful sound wonderful , I’m hooked and I’m delighted I have discovered the Bari horn, question can I use the same sheet books and backing tracks I use for my alto sax for Bari as both same key ?

Yeah, of course. Keep in mind that the written music will sound 1 octave lower than on alto. This can make it sound less nimble. But I assume this is part of learning the big horn. How to sound elegant down there.
By the way, besides Nick Brignola, Pepper Adams and Ronnie Cuber have been my main inspiration when playing solo on the baritone. Otherwise, I did years of big band section.

 

[farina_man]

Beautiful sound wonderful , I’m hooked and I’m delighted I have discovered the Bari horn, question can I use the same sheet books and backing tracks I use for my alto sax for Bari as both same key ?

Yes to both.

 

[Punchysax]

Thank you very much my horn is a borgani stencil from 40,s or 50,s Iv been told so lovely vintage tone

 

[Dr G]

The bari can be as nimble as you like.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VW9TpSn9mE&t=65s

 

[turf3]

Or,

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOsItp3mrQE&list=RDyOsItp3mrQE&start_radio=1

 

[Punchysax]

The bari can be as nimble as you like.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VW9TpSn9mE&t=65s

Dr G I understand your a Borg fan any idea if this is a Borg stencil ?also early serial number 5372 my tech believes 30,s or 40,s it’s a Pennsylvania London Selmer so a stencil horn . What year would this number be if it was on a Borgani sax ?
Regards

 

[Dr G]

Dr G I understand your a Borg fan any idea if this is a Borg stencil ?also early serial number 5372 my tech believes 30,s or 40,s it’s a Pennsylvania London Selmer so a stencil horn . What year would this number be if it was on a Borgani sax ?
Regards

I’ve no good answer for that one. Borgani numbers are all over the map - probably restarted their serial numbers several times over. Stencils often have their own series, so it gets even more muddled. Best to take clues from the construction, although stencils often lag the name brand improved horns. It’s more important to evaluate any horn this old by its condition rather than its age.

 

[farina_man]

Dr G I understand your a Borg fan any idea if this is a Borg stencil ?also early serial number 5372 my tech believes 30,s or 40,s it’s a Pennsylvania London Selmer so a stencil horn . What year would this number be if it was on a Borgani sax ?
Regards

In the 1930s Selmer Pennsylvania or Super Pennsylvania saxes were made by Kohlert in Czechoslovakia. Yours is definitely not one of them. They may have carried on supplying Selmer until the communist takeover of 1948, when the instrument factories were "nationalised", I don't know for certain. Looking at the keyguards and keywork of your baritone, I am pretty sure that it dates from the '50s, '60s or even '70s: it looks very like a Penn tenor I almost bought new for £100 in 1973. I was told that these were made in Italy but I don't know the manufacturer; Orsi or Borgani seem likely candidates, as suggested above.

 

[Punchysax]

Thank you very much knowledge is power and plenty of that on this site👍👍👍👍

 

[Taragot]

The bari can be as nimble as you like.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VW9TpSn9mE&t=65s

Bari used in Sambas is where I like it the most! Here's the great Ronnie Ross

View: https://youtu.be/xWJGpQ1Xjbs?list=RDxWJGpQ1Xjbs&t=147