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Pete Thomas

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I am experimenting with a possible new model, this is a PPT 7 baritone with extra long facing curve. Let me know if anyone wants to give it a try. Usual rules, you must be a member with 50 posts or over. Other members at the discretion of the admin.


As usual will go to people on a first ask first try basis, PM me please with your address. You pass on to the next person and take responsibility for insurance in the post (if it gets lost the sender pays, however as a prototype with a small cosmetic blemish, it is not full cost anyway, insured value would be £90)

EDIT: the long facing makes it a very easy blow, but may need a bit of experimenting with reeds. Reeds that have already been used on a typical facing may be not so good.
 

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So far it's c9off then Nick.

Please note, there is a very slight cosmetic blemish on the tip. This is not going to affect the way it sounds, and don't worry, I know it was there before the mouthpiece went out.
 

MandyH

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I wouldn't mind giving it a bash too.... PM on its way with address
 

rhysonsax

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I'd be interested in trying it out too.

Is the basic design just the same (baffle, chamber etc), only a different facing curve ?

Rhys
 

baritonesax

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Pete, may I volunteer? I've been playing a Pillinger "P" 7 in a long facing for two years now - which I've been loving. I'd be interested to compare.

The main conundrum I find I have to deal with is being able to play bell notes at pp in big band charts, then being able to solo audibly. I sometimes feel that that's the job of two different mouthpieces!

Thanks,

Bill
 
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singlereed

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I'd be happy to try it. I didn't ultimately get on with the original format and I think it could well be down to the facing. Loved the sound but I just couldn't get it to speak clearly at the top of the range.
 

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I found this to be a very easy blow, excellent intonation top to bottom, but alas didn't suit me, had a tendency to squeak without provocation, A number of different reeds were tried, but ultimately my original favorite of RJS 2m proved best suited. Please bear in mind that I am a beginner, I do have PPT tenor & sop mouthpieces, and bari comes out just to dep on rare occasions!

On it's way to NW...

Thanks to Pete for the loan, & apologies for taking so long - work got in the way...

ps: In all the ligs I have, nothing fitted, all too small, so all I could do was use a velcro tie.....
 

Nick Wyver

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ps: In all the ligs I have, nothing fitted, all too small, so all I could do was use a velcro tie.....
Me too. My Selmer one might have fitted but it's out on loan at the mo.

I thought it was a bit chirpy too. Perhaps it doesn't like Jazz Selects - I'll give it a bash with something else tomorrow. It seemed to work best with something between a 3M and a 3H (slightly harder than my Jody Jazz).

Plenty of power there - an easy blow. Comparable to my usual choice of Jody Jazz DV 9 or my previous Runyon Quantum plastic 12 (with spoiler).

Nice sound too. If I didn't already have the Jody I'd definitely consider it - assuming I can get over the chirping (I might anyway - I've only got 6 bari mpcs). Overall, I liked it better than the Runyon but not as much as the Jody.

I'll add to this in a day or two.
 

Nick Wyver

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It seems to like LaVoz medium hard best - minimal chirping. I might have to think of a good reason to justify buying one of these.

Works on the old Conn Crossbar too. The shank on the Jody Jazz is too short to be used on it but the PPT is long enough. Sounds better/louder than the 2 old Bergs I've got. If I didn't have the trusty old Yanag B900 I might almost be tempted to gig with it. For a while, anyway, until I could afford a decent new bari. In 1936 I'm sure it was the bees knees/dogs dangly bits but I'm amazed that anyone would want to play it now in preference to a Yanag/Selmer/Yam/Keilwerth etc.

Sorry I've digressed. The PPT is fabulous - buy one.

Do I get a discount for gushing praise?

Over to you, Mandy.
 

Pete Thomas

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Sorry I've digressed. The PPT is fabulous - buy one.

Do I get a discount for gushing praise?
No.

Please note though, that this particular mouthpiece on the pass around is cosmetically blemished, so will be discounted anyway.

Also please note that this is not the standard PPT7, which does not have such a long facing. I'm not so keen myself on this one, I prefer the standard baritone PPT 7, or the 8* for pure loudness and guts.
 
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Pete Thomas

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I have put a ligature in the post to Mandy, I should obviously have included one with the mouthpiece initially.
 

rhysonsax

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No.

Please note though, that this particular mouthpiece on the pass around is cosmetically blemished, so will be discounted anyway.

Also please note that this is not the standard PPT7, which does not have such a long facing. I'm not so keen myself on this one, I prefer the standard baritone PPT 7, or the 8* for pure loudness and guts.
I wonder what facing the one was that Steve Howard was playing on when I saw you both at Cowplain ? It sounded really great with the Plasticover reeds.

My PPT is marked '7LV' by Ed Pillinger. Is that the standard facing and this pass around has a longer facing ? If they are the same, then you could leave me off the pass around.

All the best

Rhys
 

Pete Thomas

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I wonder what facing the one was that Steve Howard was playing on when I saw you both at Cowplain ? It sounded really great with the Plasticover reeds.

My PPT is marked '7LV' by Ed Pillinger. Is that the standard facing and this pass around has a longer facing ? If they are the same, then you could leave me off the pass around.

The one Stephen was trying out was (I think) an 8*.

7LV is the standard PPT 7 facing. This one in the passaround is a longer facing. It has a cosmetic blemish which is why I can afford to do a passaround.

So it's different to yours, and you should be getting it from MandyH.
 

rhysonsax

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Thanks Pete.

Maybe Steve played both the 8* and a 7 - he and the sax sounded great on both to my ears. I will try my PPT with a few Plasticovers that I have, but it is already mighty bright. Steve's sound had plenty of body and he seemed to be able to back off when he wanted to. I'm worried I might overpower the rest of the big band.

Rhys
 

Pete Thomas

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Thanks Pete.

Maybe Steve played both the 8* and a 7 - he and the sax sounded great on both to my ears. I will try my PPT with a few Plasticovers that I have, but it is already mighty bright. Steve's sound had plenty of body and he seemed to be able to back off when he wanted to. I'm worried I might overpower the rest of the big band.

Rhys
Come to think of it, I had them both there and he would have played both. The one he took away was the one that was best for him as he was going to do a review, and I'm reasonably sure it was the 8*.

I am also about to bring out a 7 in a less baffled version, it will be more or less an exact copy of a Link vintage Slant Sig and will be not as bright as the existing 7.
 
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