Tech/maintenance Making parts you can’t find.

[PigSquealer]

 

[Ghr9204]

That is some mighty fine metal working, @PigSquealer . Once in place, I doubt someone would be able to tell it from an OEM part. Or, from a newer model being a touch streamlined? (Lacking slight dimple in the middle - would almost lend itself to have a plastic ruby, amber or saphire jewel of say, 10mm dia.? mounted in the centre.

 

[PigSquealer]

Used a bit of scrap to make the “C”. Center punch for center. Compass to draw outside radius. Used drillbit for middle then hand cut outside with jewelers saw. The owner can choose to use or not.

 

[PigSquealer]

The goal was to deliver a workable part.
I left the tabs straight. The center leg a fuzz long with working range.
Room for tech to final fit as needed. Two of the three body side mounts have damage. Both have been knocked off & resoldered onto body.
It is extremely difficult to duplicate the crisp edges of a die struck part. I did do some cleanup work after the pictures. Total time was about two hours….gifted. I welcomed the challenge to try my very best and learn. Let’s say the the experience far exceeded the cost.
Perfect, nope. Usable cheerful pleasing part. I think so. Especially considering the option is….none. Well maybe Franken Horn spares. Guess that’s about the same

Stacked ontop of eachother.

 

[Ghr9204]

Looks like a winner. 😎

 

[TobyB]

Tap- tap- tap...

I would be sorely tempted to try making a die set and pressing that into shape...

but then, I am hasty.

t

 

[PigSquealer]

Tap- tap- tap...

I would be sorely tempted to try making a die set and pressing that into shape...

but then, I am hasty.

t

Yeah, I thought about doing that. Not worth the investment for a one-off part. Two hours start to finish. Had appointment to get my hair & nails done that afternoon

 

[Ghr9204]

Had appointment to get my hair & nails done that afternoon

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/f3/2c/08f32cba65529021e09cc9fdb33e1587.jpg

(Sorry, couldn't help myself.) 😀

But seriously, your hand made part looks well done, good enough to pass for OEM. It kind of reminds me of the days when they actually made saxophones by hand. (Le Blanc's Beaugnier factory, which crafted hand made instruments closed around 1971 because they could not compete price wise with other manufacturers using more modern factory methods.)

Regarding what the clothing guard looked like on my early 1950's Beaugnier Bari Sax that I showed my improvised one earlier in this thread. Following is a similar model tenor sax that one someone posted on SOTW , who @JayeNM clarified / corrected historical info:

From: https://www.saxontheweb.net/threads/vito-new-saxophone-of-old-design.380570/

Thus I gathered that the bari clothes guard must have been similar.

 

[PigSquealer]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/f3/2c/08f32cba65529021e09cc9fdb33e1587.jpg

(Sorry, couldn't help myself.) 😀

But seriously, your hand made part looks well done, good enough to pass for OEM. It kind of reminds me of the days when they actually made saxophones by hand. (Le Blanc's Beaugnier factory, which crafted hand made instruments closed around 1971 because they could not compete price wise with other manufacturers using more modern factory methods.)

Regarding what the clothing guard looked like on my early 1950's Beaugnier Bari Sax that I showed my improvised one earlier in this thread. Following is a similar model tenor sax that one someone posted on SOTW , who @JayeNM clarified / corrected historical info:

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From: https://www.saxontheweb.net/threads/vito-new-saxophone-of-old-design.380570/

Thus I gathered that the bari clothes guard must have been similar.

Have forwarded to Mini Squealer . I’m sure this could be done in black. Will let you know….

 

[Ghr9204]

Have forwarded to Mini Squealer . I’m sure this could be done in black. Will let you know….

I'm sure Minnie Squealer will be tickled pink!

 

[Ghr9204]

I parted off the piece. Tinned the base. Minimal spot cleaned the body. Applied a smidgen of flux and wedged the part into place between Key and body.


Perfect, nope. Working yep. [...]

Actually it’s challenging not to disturb old dirt (aka patina). Too clean and shiny will standout.
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I particularly liked the way you were able to fuse the new standoff with minimal disruption to the sax's patina. My work would have had a quarter to half dollar size clean spot with a slight burnt appearance to remaining lacquer from over-application of heat by my "oversized" Weller butane torch during the sweat soldering.

But over the years, I have seen sweat soldering work like mine on various brass (trumpets, trombones, french horns, etc.) and saxophones after returned from a shop. Thus I gather not all instrument repairers have your skills.

When you eventually make your move to retire to Kansas City, southern California musicians are going to miss out!

 

[SaxBoss]

Can we build it? Yes we can!
Can we fix it? Yes we can!


Open you wallet - making stuff takes time..

 

[Ghr9204]

Open you wallet - making stuff takes time..

Isn't it amazing how techs become quite amenable when you show them the green stuff?

 

[Pete Thomas]

Isn't it amazing how techs become quite amenable when you show them the green stuff?

Verdigris? No…

 

[Ghr9204]

Verdigris? No…

American dinero. 😉

 

[PigSquealer]

The infamous missing octave pin. I don’t know if these were ever available as a factory part. Common to be broken off or MIA.

A straightforward simple part that could probably be made in a drill motor with a file.

 

[PigSquealer]

Lathe setup includes a carriage stop. Don’t crash the cutting bit into the chuck !

 

[PigSquealer]

A few light cuts to bring the diameter down.

Mark the end distance for shoulder cut.

 

[PigSquealer]

The receiving hole was cleaned and sized. The finish cut was a light press fit. Checked in place before removing from lathe.

 

[PigSquealer]

I tinned the part with solder. Fluxed the hole. With the part firmly held in a vice. I heated the rod and gently pressed the part onto it while molten. A quick flash of heat draws the solder to this side.

Maybe a little cleanup work ? A Teflon sleeve will be covering the part.