Playing the saxophone Learn to play by ear or by reading music

Who relies on ear playing over reading?


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Ok I found this which may make my point easier..The song sounds better without playingbthe instrumental but that section highlights what im trying to achieve..am i being harsh on myself after only 9 years playing. How would i improv over the instrumental can i learn it? Should i be able to do it? Could any of you guys if you were my teacher be able to help..its a c instrument the songs in B major so im working with that scale
Sounds good. And it seems to be a sax player with the right attitude to RockSax. The shirt and the hairstyle is also important ingredients to get the right groove. I play better à la Clarence Clemons in my armless red sweater.

I know some musicians, and some are teachers as well, that could help you.

The drummer in our band is former "hard rock" drummer. He played on quite big arenas in Berlin back in the late 60's ans 70's. He wanted to play some Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin ... songs so we decided to play "Smoke On the Water". It was so hard for me to get the sax into the song. I was also trying to play a solo. We played SOTW in concert A. I had my friend over for a RockSax workshop and I asked him what I should do. He took the sax and played the solo and also demonstrate how to play along with electric guitar to make it more interesting. It sounded so good. He cut the solo up into pieces and explained what to think of; use the B blues scale as frame/ground (B D E F F# A, just one sharp!), the necessary repetition is important, through in some other tones, don't play it cheerful and no big intervals ..... and the cooperation with the electric guitar; practice to keep it "short" and nail every tone, the high baffle mouthpiece with lots of edge and cut through is helping up a lot ...... . With this I just want to point out that it's possible to play and think out of the frames with the right support. Lots of competent Rock sax players here on CS. But to meet the right person in real life is better.

I often wonder: If a sax teacher, with jazz background, have place for one more student before the schedule is full. One student wants to learn/play jazz and the other wants to learn/play Rock & Roll Saxophone. Who will the teacher choose?
 
I often wonder: If a sax teacher, with jazz background, have place for one more student before the schedule is full. One student wants to learn/play jazz and the other wants to learn/play Rock & Roll Saxophone. Who will the teacher choose?
If the teacher is any good, he or she will choose the one that actually practices…
 
Im going to but need to know i can do it..Otherwise theres not much point in playing anymore..

Can the solo be played on a saxophone? Certainly - it is mostly single line (no double stops) and pretty predictable. A few scoops and bends here and there, and you’re done. Have you ever listened to Plas Johnson or Boots Randolph? I was playing Yackety Sax when I was in high school - it was one of the first tunes that I transcribed and played from memory. I’m sure it got pretty annoying for my parents.

Hmmm, Pink Panther was another annoying tune that I loved my first year of tenor. Harlem Nocturne, too.
 
Can the solo be played on a saxophone? Certainly - it is mostly single line (no double stops) and pretty predictable. A few scoops and bends here and there, and you’re done. Have you ever listened to Plas Johnson or Boots Randolph? I was playing Yackety Sax when I was in high school - it was one of the first tunes that I transcribed and played from memory. I’m sure it got pretty annoying for my parents.

Hmmm, Pink Panther was another annoying tune that I loved my first year of tenor. Harlem Nocturne, too.
Simples huh.. im sure ill find it so in another 20 years...lol..
 
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Ok I found this which may make my point easier..The song sounds better without playingbthe instrumental but that section highlights what im trying to achieve..am i being harsh on myself after only 9 years playing. How would i improv over the instrumental can i learn it? Should i be able to do it? Could any of you guys if you were my teacher be able to help..its a c instrument the songs in B major so im working with that scale
Hi just watched video,i think it sounds great,you done well to get out and play in front of people,i think the guitar part is a nice break,ready for you to come back in.You ask some good questions on here Ed,that spark some good debate,fair play to you.Did you play that from memory or did you have the notes with you,i been playing bit longer but could not do that.What was the place you played in.Keep doing what you doing.Bumnote:clapping::sax:
 
Hi just watched video,i think it sounds great,you done well to get out and play in front of people,i think the guitar part is a nice break,ready for you to come back in.You ask some good questions on here Ed,that spark some good debate,fair play to you.Did you play that from memory or did you have the notes with you,i been playing bit longer but could not do that.What was the place you played in.Keep doing what you doing.Bumnote:clapping::sax:
Unfortunately not me.. i was just using it to show the sort of thing id like to improv over
 
Hes playing the dots little infills here and there..
He is definitely not reading the music.He is playing by ear like most rock players.

But just in case you are interested, if I was to solo on something that it keeps it simple probably play something along these lines (as improv):

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He is definitely not reading the music.He is playing by ear like most rock players.

But just in case you are interested, if I was to solo on something that it keeps it simple probably play something along these lines (as improv):

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Thanks @Pete Thomas...i just thiyght as he was playing and showing the original he would have played to the dots in B major to learn it then played from memory..shall we delete the vid seems a bit wrong now..I just wanted to show what section i was trying to improv over
 
he would have played to the dots in B major to learn it
I highly doubt it. He's a good player and normally any rock player playing a tune like that would not be needing the dots. I'd keep the video there or (this part of) the thread makes no sense as I believe you are talking about the guitar solo. Plus it's a good example of a rock and roll player not needing the sheet music.

I may have mentioned this about playing by ear/memory and I don't wish to brag because it is just what we do and countless other player do the same thing. I got a call to go on a tour with Fats Domino. They were already on the tour and no rehearsal I just had to fit in with a 6 part horn section and play the set (probably 20 or so songs) no sheet music no rehearsal. It's all about playing by ear and if you want to play that genre you should show the sheet music away and start training and using your ears.

I think all except two of the other touring bands I've been with there is no sheet music.
 
Agree with the quiff tbf..how would transposing help..
I probably meant transcribing
Sorry.

I'd keep the video there or (this part of) the thread makes no sense as I believe you are talking about the guitar solo.
It's all interesting discussion... But, maybe, if not off topic, to the side? Worth its own thread?
 
I highly doubt it. He's a good player and normally any rock player playing a tune like that would not be needing the dots. I'd keep the video there or (this part of) the thread makes no sense as I believe you are talking about the guitar solo. Plus it's a good example of a rock and roll player not needing the sheet music.

I may have mentioned this about playing by ear/memory and I don't wish to brag because it is just what we do and countless other player do the same thing. I got a call to go on a tour with Fats Domino. They were already on the tour and no rehearsal I just had to fit in with a 6 part horn section and play the set (probably 20 or so songs) no sheet music no rehearsal. It's all about playing by ear and if you want to play that genre you should show the sheet music away and start training and using your ears.

I think all except two of the other touring bands I've been with there is no sheet music.
Hmm i think that you have earnt bragging rites tbf... @Pete Thomas .. Im kind of proud of where im at after only 9 years..ive not got as many left as youve played..Now i can carry on in the care homes i can open up different learning, it feels like i have some purpose to my playing..I think that has been the purpose..learn the melody then use the insrumentals playing by ear, improv its the next hurdle..
 

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