Scam/Fake? David's... ehem... unusual finds... Very rare Selmer? - £4,000

[Jimmymack]

I think this might take another turn round the block.

 

[Pete Thomas]

£400 is an awful lot of money for a 'nologo'

True.

 

[SaxBoss]

What could 400 quid buy, in say the Yamaha second hand market?

 

[Pete Thomas]

What could 400 quid buy, in say the Yamaha second hand market?

You can’t really compare new prices with second hand market. If you paid 400 and then sold on , you’d not be selling for for 400, more likely half that. I wasn’t trying to imply if you removed the logo from a fake that cost 400, albeit s very good horn, it would be worth 400.

 

[DavidUK]

What could 400 quid buy, in say the Yamaha second hand market?

4 x YAS-21, or
2 x YAS-280, or
A YTS-62 with change, or
A YTS-32 with more change.
...in my world.

 

[SaxBoss]

4 x YAS-21, or
2 x YAS-280, or
A YTS-62 with change, or
A YTS-32 with more change.

Would these be in good playing condition?

If that's a given, then who ever bought that horn still got ripped off.

 

[DavidUK]

The 21 would need some work, the others none. But you'll need to have special hunting skills, or luck, to find bargains like these.

Asking prices are usually around three times these ones.

 

[Ivan]

But you'll need to have special hunting skills, or luck, to find bargains like these.

Are you saying you are the Sax Café Elmer Fudd?

 

[DavidUK]

Are you saying you are the Sax Café Elmer Fudd?

New Avatar required?

 

[Ivan]

... And new signature

"Shhh. Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting saxowones"

 

[Pete Thomas]

Would these be in good playing condition?

If that's a given, then who ever bought that horn still got ripped off.

They got ripped off because it is a horn with no value.

But if the same horn had a different or no logo, then there is no way to know, without seeing it and playing it, that 400 is not a good price.

If you are thinking that it's a rip off because (assumably) it is of Chinese origin, then there is still no way to know that 400 is not a good price. Chinese instruments sell from between 150 ish to 4000 ish. Some are good, some aren't

 

[jazzdoh]

Cheese instruments sell from between 150 ish to 4000 ish. Some are good, some aren't

Are these the one's made by Stilton.

Sorry Pete, couldn't resist, don't report me to Santa, I don't want to go on his naughty list, I want a mouthpiece for Christmas.

 

[Colin the Bear]

... And new signature

"Shhh. Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting saxowones"

I taut I taw a 62....I did I taw a 62 as cheap as it could be.

 

[DavidUK]

Elmer Tweetie-Pie?

 

[Hankenstine]

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[DavidUK]

Previous seller and new seller both in Northampton.

I wonder if he thought he'd bagged a bargain to resell at five times the price!

 

[jazzdoh]

Previous seller and new seller both in Northampton.

I wonder if he thought he'd bagged a bargain to resell at five times the price!

Or it didn't really sell 1st time and original seller just asked a friend or a member of his family to list it for him so maybe to get more money and then it takes the heat of him if he kept getting abuse and it doesn't look like its unsellable if the original owner had kept listing it.

 

[DavidUK]

Could be. Seller lives in Romania per his Facebook profile and all his other items are listed as being there, apart from the sax in Northampton.

When I had my 280 and 62 for sale on FBMP recently almost all enquiries were from Romanians. I found it intimidating, especially when they firstly ask for my address. No questions about the sax, just where I am. Maybe they're all friends of the first seller who's now put out a contract on me?

 

[greenstripe]

Same individual instrument or just the same model?

 

[DavidUK]

Well, both sellers are in Northampton (though the later one lives in Romania) so it would be too much of a coincidence for it to be a second identical never-before-seen fake Selmer.