Beginners corner 2!

[ken]

Another basic one! Are the pads/tone holes named?

To be more precise? I can see where a 'single' key that operates a 'single' pad that the pad would be named the same as the key (y/n). However where one key operates more than one pad, conversely where one pad is operated by more than one key, how is the pad/tone named.

Just a silly btw question. but I find myself being curious (nuff said!).

Ken.

 

[ken]

Oh well, I guess I'm not the only one that doesn't know :erm:

 

[griff136]

Hi Ken,

pads and tone holes are named. so are keys and yes you are right to say that when a single key operates a single pad then yes that key and that pad would have the same name. The problem arises when there are keys that as you rightly put operate more than one pad for example the F,E,D keys where they all close the pad above the f key (which is the f# pad/tonehole) which also links to shut the pad below the second finger of the left hand (know as the Bb bis key pad/tonehole)
there are other examples the bar key on the upper stack, forked eb keys on some older instruments and odd trill keys like the G# trill keys found on older Conns.

 

[ken]

At 10:42:22 PM 28/03/06, griff136 wrote:
Hi Ken,

pads and tone holes are named. so are keys and yes you are right to say that when a single key operates a single pad then yes that key and that pad would have the same name. The problem arises when there are keys that as you rightly put operate more than one pad for example the F,E,D keys where they all close the pad above the f key (which is the f# pad/tonehole) which also links to shut the pad below the second finger of the left hand (know as the Bb bis key pad/tonehole)
there are other examples the bar key on the upper stack, forked eb keys on some older instruments and odd trill keys like the G# trill keys found on older Conns.

Hello griff136 and thanks for the reply.

So in conclusion, some of the pads/tone holes, I can't really refer to by a single name (note)?

As an aside and whilst looking on the web, I came across a "one handed sax"!... no upper stack. Why I wondered?

Thanks again,
Ken.

 

[griff136]

Hi again Ken,

all of the tone holes/pads have a single name but not necessarily the name of the note of the key that is being pressed down.

eg the low f# (middle finger right hand) you actually press down the low E key this in turn closes the F# pad which is the pad above the F Key and pad. all three of the right hand keys close the f# pad. when the F key is closed, because there is no tone hole open between the F pad and the F# pad then an F is sounded. when you press the F and E keys its sounds and E , if you press the E key without the F then this will sound an F# because there is a tone hole open before the F thus making the body tube shorter and a higher note is sounded. so will pressing just the D key (will all of the above the first 3 fingers of the left hand must be operating their respective keys)

I hope this somewhat long winded paragraph helps explain!

I will try and fish out a diagram of the tone hole/pad names for you.

Griff

www.dg-music.co.uk

 

[ken]

Thanks again Griff,

I'll work my way through your description and try to work it out (the pads/t.h's... not your description).

If you do come across the diagram that would be great too.

Many thanks,
Ken.