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The Jew and the Nazi sax

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I thought the from the thread title it was going to be a witty tale:

The Jew and the Nazi sax walked into a bar mitzvah ............
 

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Yep. I originally thought it was a huller or other German horn. It feels, weighs the same as a truetone tenor but the microtuner and brace mean it's not so straight forward.@milandro would know if he still frequents the forum
@milandro does pop in occasionally :)

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Yep. I originally thought it was a huller or other German horn. It feels, weighs the same as a truetone tenor but the microtuner and brace mean it's not so straight forward.@milandro would know if he still frequents the forum

The bell to body bracing is seen in a great many horns from the German-speaking regions of Europe. Max Keilwerth used them--and he even used them in his Hohner Presidents later on.

I can't think of all the different brands that used them. I have a lot of them illustrated in the Bassic Sax Pix if you are interested in going through the galleries and checking for yourself. (I am just in the middle of doing a bunch of research on B&S, othewise I'd do it for you.)
 

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Thanks for the offer! Gladly would do that and at the same update my own website too (haven't had time to do that :) )
It would be great to work with you on this.

I totally get the lack of time thing. I just fell down the rabbit hole of updating my B&S pages... I still need to start practicing today. My bass sax is calling. ;)
 

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hello, since my name was mentioned, here I am , it looks indeed Bohemian , that bell to body brace together with the microtuner was used on the Kohlert 1926 model that model also carries the “ conn” mercedes benz guard, it has the Button G sharp too.

On Sax pics they only have an alto snot split bell but that is the only difference

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@milandro .it seems very close, thanks for the information. As you say the only real difference is the split bell key's.
I have a vision that my horn was perhaps a Kriegsmarine band instrument.
I've called it my "Kohlert truetone thingy" for years. It's pads were originally white kid skin with no resonator.
 
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I am not sure why you think this was a German Marine horn. The Fact that there is nothing on it on it to identify it as such says nothing about its “ provenance” , it is an unmarked saxophone of at least a decade prior to the war that is sure, the rest is, sorry to say, just a guess.
 

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I am not sure why you think this was a German Marine horn. The Fact that there is nothing on it on it to identify it as such says nothing about its “ provenance” , it is an unmarked saxophone of at least a decade prior to the war that is sure, the rest is, sorry to say, just a guess.
Of course It's the fact that it has absolutely no markings or provenance that allows me that indulgence.

Thanks though. I don't want to hijack this great thread any further on a daft whim .
 

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Yep. I originally thought it was a huller or other German horn. It feels, weighs the same as a truetone tenor but the microtuner and brace mean it's not so straight forward.@milandro would know if he still frequents the forum
I think it's a kohlert made sax. I had a "The Popular" tenor and it looked like yours. Kohlert had very flat keycups.

Klingsor (Hammerschmidt) engraving gives me "nazi vibes". But built in 1956 in Baviaria, West Germany.
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