Accessories Tall Sax Stands

[PigSquealer]

I took apart the Bass clarinet stand I recently bought and the pivot bolt for the upright is a black machine bolt threaded from the base of the head to the end. It is basicly a new stand and the bolt already shows wear from where the upright comes in contact with it when it pivotes. I belive the bolt is a very mild / soft steel and the upright a much harder quality of steel that wears it away on contact. Threads were already worried through.

I will replace this bolt with a shouldered stainless steel bolt. Should last a life time.

The head will have grade markings. If there’s no markings it usually low grade / soft. Just because it’s stainless doesn’t make it stronger.

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[Merryfisher]

Some good points there - but don't forget the 'wildcard'...which is the odd drunk punter that decides to get up on the stage while you're on your half-time break.
When that happens, everything on the stage is at risk - and that tall stand will increase your risk exponentially. As such it might be worth popping the horn in (not on) its case between sets....which is something I always did when playing gigs in Southampton...

Oh...and never, ever, never put a sax stand down over a lead (mic/power etc.).

Spot on here, altho Portsmouth worse. Worse still Gosport. Had a drunk collapse into horn section there once at the interval, I turned around to see a big fat bloke on his back like an upturned tortoise squashing my horn unable to get up…he somehow managed to miss the trumpet and trombone either side….my gig ended there

 

[turf3]

As far as I'm concerned, every sax stand I've bought has needed to be regarded as a "saxophone stand kit". Pretty much all of them require some degree of modification to fit properly, or to address shortcomings in mechanical design or execution.

 

[thomsax]

Lots, most, of saxophone accidents use to be in the case or on a stand. I use stands at home. Some extra safety .....

 

[Veggie Dave]

Spot on here, altho Portsmouth worse. Worse still Gosport. Had a drunk collapse into horn section there once at the interval, I turned around to see a big fat bloke on his back like an upturned tortoise squashing my horn unable to get up…he somehow managed to miss the trumpet and trombone either side….my gig ended there

This is one of my nightmares!

It's also why I just won't play pubs any more. I played my first club in years last week but I made sure my gear was behind so much other stuff that it was nigh-on impossible to get to. It did have a proper stage, though, that was high enough to put most people off trying to walk/climb onto it.

Looking back on it now, I'm amazed I was so relaxed about leaving my horns there on their own during the interval. I may have become a little too blasé, especially after reading this thread!

 

[Pete Thomas]

Makes me think of this:

Tech/maintenance - Long Spike for Playing Bari Standing

I was watching Mark Ronson and his band playing at the Glastonbury festival on Sunday night on BBC TV. The bari sax player seemed to have a long metal rod attached to the side of his bari to take some of the weight of the horn but still let him sway around while standing up. I found a clip on...

cafesaxophone.com

It could work to jam the spike into something when you aren't playing

 

[Ivan]

Makes me think of this:

Tech/maintenance - Long Spike for Playing Bari Standing

I was watching Mark Ronson and his band playing at the Glastonbury festival on Sunday night on BBC TV. The bari sax player seemed to have a long metal rod attached to the side of his bari to take some of the weight of the horn but still let him sway around while standing up. I found a clip on...

cafesaxophone.com

It could work to jam the spike into something when you aren't playing

Defence against oncoming punters

 

[Veggie Dave]

Some good points there - but don't forget the 'wildcard'...which is the odd drunk punter that decides to get up on the stage while you're on your half-time break.

It turns out there's another wildcard you didn't mention - the heavy 5 feet wide mirror that fell off the wall when one of the hangers failed. Luckily the keyboard stand stopped it hitting the two saxes on their tall stands!

That was one possibility I never saw coming...

 

[Stephen Howard]

That was one possibility I never saw coming...

There's always one waiting to catch you out.

I once had a speaker cab on a stand get knocked over onto my tenor. Just caught the mouthpiece - bent the crook down.
Managed to bend it back up and tweak the octave key so that I could get on with the gig. Strangely enough, I swear the horn played better...

 

[Veggie Dave]

Okay, two shows in with the tall stands and they've been a god send up to now. The 1st show I created a safety barrier using flight and stand cases behind the stage tabs so that no one could even possibly knock into them. And tonight, as you can see, there was no way anyone could bang into them without putting some serious effort into knocking them over.

I have to say that they've really made swapping between instruments much, much easier and quicker. But I'm also really lucky that most of the places I play at the moment are stages with no audience access.

 

[Ivan]

Anyone tried the reassuringly expensive carbon fibre stands from WoodWind Design?

Once the eyes have stopped smarting at the price, the baritone version is tempting for its low weight and compact storage

Difficult to estimate its knock-over-abilty without trying it

 

[Tonehole]

I have one I use for my Bari saxophones. I have a an old school K&M stand, a Hercules and the WoodWind Design stand. The stand is very light and stable I bought it for its lightness, ease of carrying and compactness. Works well and is sturdy enough but takes some time in assembly.
Just another thing to practice. It stores super compact, the bell yoke requires minimal space to store in your case.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nP-sWQY5Yg


Works on both my YBS 62 in a Bam HiTech case and my Selmer silver SBA Bb in a Walt Johnson. Both are heavy when loaded.
YBS is the money maker but the SBA my pride and joy. A lot of cash invested to protect my horns but the horns ain't cheap either.

I used to do jams on the SBA and take on tenor players with it, just so easy to get around on. Played Giant Steps on it as a teen. My roomate was a Bari player on scholarship so we gigged as 'Dueling Bari's". He said I played the SBA like it was a tenor, a back handed comp. LOL

If I had more gigs on Bass clarinet I would likely buy one for my Series 9. But I just picked up a 2nd hand Hercules for it which is far lighter than the old school K&M I have had since High School.

 

[Vetinari]

Anyone tried the reassuringly expensive carbon fibre stands from WoodWind Design?

Once the eyes have stopped smarting at the price, the baritone version is tempting for its low weight and compact storage

Difficult to estimate its knock-over-abilty without trying it

Eye watering price? Try this, last I saw it was £600. A bass version is available. It adjusts for angle and height, can be use for sitting and standing.
Kaling sax stand.

 

[Vetinari]

Previously posted by @Hankenstine some time ago.

View: https://youtu.be/_bdUEUmq0-4?si=RGvmK7efc9ut5iiN

 

[Tonehole]

That Bass stand weighs in at a hefty 3.4 KG or 7.5lb and looks like it packs huge! Legs are very long for stability. Not that that matters if you are moving a Bass sax around and the case weighs 12kg.

Woodwind Design Bari stand is 500 gm or 1.2 lb. I bought mine from ....

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