Tech/maintenance strap hook ring

[Colin the Bear]

I have a piece of aquarium airline slipped over my sling hooks.

 

[Stephen Howard]

I wouldn’t do this on a customers Horn. It’s almost halfway. That’s just asking for trouble. Better to replace the part.

I wouldn't just flip it around either. What I do is whip the whole thing off, clamp it so that the wear gap is dead on the 6 o'clock position then fill it with silver solder. If you gauge it just right the solder should fill the gap and conform to the ring - thus requiring little or no clean-up. And then I refit it, flipped the other way round.
That said, a replacement Yamaha part is only a fiver or so - so it would make lots of sense to just buy a spare.

 

[turf3]

It's really strange to me that they still use brass rings for this. It's dead easy to silver-solder a stainless steel ring to a brass plate. The cost of material isn't different enough to even think about.

 

[wakyct]

I have a brass spring hook on my strap, is it necessary to fit tubing over it to protect my horn's hook ring?

 

[Stephen Howard]

It's really strange to me that they still use brass rings for this. It's dead easy to silver-solder a stainless steel ring to a brass plate. The cost of material isn't different enough to even think about.

I've often wondered that. Tradition, I s'pose.

 

[Stephen Howard]

I have a brass spring hook on my strap, is it necessary to fit tubing over it to protect my horn's hook ring?

I would. Metal on metal...something's gonna wear.

 

[turf3]

I don't know for sure what the strap rings on late-40s Conns are made of, but it's not brass. I would think steel, but I've never seen any evidence of rust. I suppose it COULD be SS, or some kind of nickel alloy.

But at any rate, I used to have a cast-steel hook on my bari strap, and the ring on my Conn baritone wore the hook 2/3 of the way through before I noticed it. Almost no visible wear on the ring.

So yeah, metal on metal, something's going to wear. Either way, failure of the hook or the ring really sucks.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Here starts the discussion on how sling ring materials affect tone.🤗

 

[Pete Thomas]

Here starts the discussion on how sling ring materials affect tone.🤗

Oh no it doesn’t.

 

[greenstripe]

Here starts the discussion on how sling ring materials affect tone.🤗

Oh they will effect tone greatly when they fail, a heavy mass saxophone combined with concrete floor could be called a 'Clank Bugger'

 

[ssyleung]

Remove the old damage ring and get a new good one. Just to replace the old one with a new in the same style/material is not a good solution. The metal of ring is too soft.

The problem is probably that the strap hook was made a of a harder material (steel ?). To cover the with strap hook with plastic is just helping up for a short time.

I have solid nickelsilver hooks on all my Martin Committee saxes and my saxes and brass spring hooks and brass spring hooks on my harness. Better to replace the harness/strap instead of body strap ring?

True

 

[ssyleung]

DONE, in a less than an hour
I took it to the Yamaha dealer in town, they happen to have a Tenor ring that looks the same. I took it.
Thank you all for all the positive feeds.

 

[ssyleung]

The heat shrink tubing I use on the hook lasts a long time, is easy to cut off and replace; and costs almost nothing.

Yes, I took the advice and it really serves the purpose and it is cheap.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Nice job.

 

[PigSquealer]

I have a piece of aquarium airline slipped over my sling hooks.

That’s usually clear vinyl hose.

 

[PigSquealer]

DONE, in a less than an hour
I took it to the Yamaha dealer in town, they happen to have a Tenor ring that looks the same. I took it.
Thank you all for all the positive feeds.

I’m curious what the fee was if you don’t mind my asking.

 

[ssyleung]

That’s usually clear vinyl hose.

Yeah, that is it, but I can buy a like at less 10 metre long from hardware store; can last for my whole life. haha

 

[ssyleung]

I’m curious what the fee was if you don’t mind my asking.

Since it is Yamada dealership, they have frequent shipments from Japan, so the ring cost only CAD10, labor another CAD50

 

[vzjp]

Until it gets replaced with a new ring I would just fill the notch with metal filings epoxy putty, (like Steelstik from World's Strongest Bond ) It really isn't looking safe to keep playing.

 

[PiccoloPirate]

JB Steel Stik has many uses but the OP had the ring replaced.
Make it right, before heading offshore, is a prudent saying.
While Steel Stik sets fairly fast, it really hardens after several days.
Not sure what its adhesion properties are.
Used it to make temporary bushings with respect to flute post pivot holes....
And used it to modify the shank of a Goldbeck Supurb Alto sax MP to try it on a C clarinet.
Emperical proof that some things, no matter how you repurpose them, will always work like a vacuum cleaner.