Tech/maintenance SHWoodwind Updates

[thomsax]

No. Plastic resonator, The Martin alto.

My "The Martin Alto" have "plain" pad (just a rivet) on that key. I shows that it's important to measure the I.D. of the tone hole when you install pads with reflectors/resonators. There should be at least 5mm between the edge of the reflector/resonator and I.D. of the tone hole.

 

[PigSquealer]

My "The Martin Alto" have "plain" pad (just a rivet) on that key. I shows that it's important to measure the I.D. of the tone hole when you install pads with reflectors/resonators. There should be at least 5mm between the edge of the reflector/resonator and I.D. of the tone hole.

Fwiw its a new customers sax. His complaint was “ my Bb key is sticking “ I’m guessing the pad job was done 15 years ago 😱
The resonator was 10mm. Tone hole 11mm. New pad installed with a rivet😉

 

[Colin the Bear]

My "The Martin Alto" have "plain" pad (just a rivet) on that key. I shows that it's important to measure the I.D. of the tone hole when you install pads with reflectors/resonators. There should be at least 5mm between the edge of the reflector/resonator and I.D. of the tone hole.

Granny...eggs. 😉

 

[Stephen Howard]

I've added my thoughts on the Borgani Vintage alto to the tenor review.

Borgani OBT Vintage tenor, Joe Lovano and Vintage alto saxophone review

A workbench review of the Borgani OBT Vintage tenor, Joe Lovano tenor and Vintage alto saxes

www.shwoodwind.co.uk

 

[DavidUK]

That Borgani is unbelievable!
Just one example like this and I'd now never consider one.

 

[Veggie Dave]

I've added my thoughts on the Borgani Vintage alto to the tenor review.

Borgani OBT Vintage tenor, Joe Lovano and Vintage alto saxophone review

A workbench review of the Borgani OBT Vintage tenor, Joe Lovano tenor and Vintage alto saxes

www.shwoodwind.co.uk

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[mizmar]

I've added my thoughts on the Borgani Vintage alto to the tenor review.

You don't really continue this thought..

...question as to how this came about.

My inner engineer is always curious as to how things go wrong. My, nieve, thought would be something went horribly wrong with some jigging? New shoddy ones? Old ones with too much wear?

 

[Stephen Howard]

My inner engineer is always curious as to how things go wrong. My, nieve, thought would be something went horribly wrong with some jigging? New shoddy ones? Old ones with too much wear?

I doubt it's a jig related issue - but if we assume it is, the immediate question that arises is why didn't they bother to fix the jigs?

 

[mizmar]

I doubt it's a jig related issue - but if we assume it is, the immediate question that arises is why didn't they bother to fix the jigs?

I was thinking; outsourced the manufacture of parts, with poor quality control and a bad contract?

Then found this, it says the posts are outsoruced locally...

Everything is made here in the factory except for key posts and pads. These are made locally by a contractor and bought in. The standard of these subcontracted items is closely monitored

www.saxophoneheaven.com -Borgani Visit

 

[Stephen Howard]

"The standard of these subcontracted items is closely monitored"

Well, either they're not monitoring them closely enough - or they're doing something to them to screw them up. The end result's the same.

 

[mizmar]

Italian business negotiation. ".. my wife's brother's son is good with his hands and needs some work. Let me make you an offer you cannot refuse..."

 

[greenstripe]

I think perhaps, they've taken the whole hand made thing to heart. No jigs, lathes or measuring tools whatsoever.

 

[Stephen Howard]

I think perhaps, they've taken the whole hand made thing to heart. No jigs, lathes or measuring tools whatsoever.

Funnily enough, they'd probably do a better job of it. But only if they cared enough.

 

[Alphorn]

Stephen, out of curiosity, would you let us know how many hours will go into rectifying such horrible workmanship to bring such a horn into a playing state that meets the accepted standards?

Alphorn

 

[Stephen Howard]

Stephen, out of curiosity, would you let us know how many hours will go into rectifying such horrible workmanship to bring such a horn into a playing state that meets the accepted standards?

Alphorn

It's at least a day's work, perhaps two if there more issues to sort.

 

[MMM]

What a shame, I would like to afford one of their tenors, they do make great instruments !

 

[Pete Thomas]

they do make great instruments !

Who do? (have I missed something?)

 

[Jimmymack]

What a shame, I would like to afford one of their tenors, they do make great instruments !

Apparently they can but not all of them.

 

[MMM]

Who do? (have I missed something?)

Borgani makes great instruments, it’s a shame they don’t seem to get their QA right.

 

[Colin the Bear]

An old quote.
"A rabble is no more an army than a pile of bricks is a house."
Another misquote.
"All the right parts but not in the right order."