Ligatures PPT Signature Baritone Mouthpiece

[JazzMatt]

Well, after a week and a half with the piece, I absolutely love it.

The big band leader commented, when I was warming up, that I had a new mouthpiece and it sounded fantastic - he had a toot too and loved it. My dad, who wears a hearing aid and struggles with alto and high baffle pieces, thought it wonderfully smooth and I agree.

Thanks again @Pete Thomas for a quality piece. I've put fellow band members onto them too so there may be a flurry of orders from Staffordshire!!

 

[Skip Monroe]

I'm thinking Donald Duck

May have to collaborate with Disney Corporation on branding the new PPT Donald Duckbilled Baritone Mouthpiece.

 

[sax panther]

you can of course make a duck sound very soulful, just put it in the microwave until it's bill withers

 

[Skip Monroe]

you can of course make a duck sound very soulful, just put it in the microwave until it's bill withers

Similar in style, but dissimilar in temperature:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8YOLY4Tats

 

[B Flat]

I use a Rovner platinum HR P-3R on my PPT.
But mine is the older piece with PPT on side of mouthpiece.
I’m not sure if these are the same size externally.

 

[rhysonsax]

I have the PPT Signature baritone mouthpiece. Does anyone know whether the Vandoren ligatures for their own V16 ebonite baritone mouthpieces (M|O V16 or Optimum V16) fit and work well with the PPT ?

Rhys

 

[Pete Thomas]

V16 or Optimum V16) fit and work well with the PPT ?

I’d also be interested.

 

[rhysonsax]

I believe that the PPT Signature is based on a particular Otto Link ebonite baritone mouthpiece. Does that mean that the external dimensions are the same as for a current Link piece ?

And have the external dimensions of Link ebonite baritone pieces changed over time ?

Rhys

 

[Pete Thomas]

I believe that the PPT Signature is based on a particular Otto Link ebonite baritone mouthpiece.

I don’t know the actual age but is a Slant Signature.

I will do some measurements and post them here.

 

[rhysonsax]

I don’t know the actual age but is a Slant Signature.

I will do some measurements and post them here.

I measured my PPT Signature bari mouthpiece using the Rovner mouthpiece measuring tool.

View: https://youtu.be/eZBFr5EjhJY


I reckoned that the distance around the body in the area where a ligature would grip varied from 96mm to 105mm and the Rovner website told me that would require a 3R size Rovner lig.

Rhys

 

[Pete Thomas]

the Rovner website told me that would require a 3R size Rovner lig.

We advise:

• Baritone: (Rovner Bass Clarinet Dark 3RL or Light L10)

 

[rhysonsax]

We advise:

• Baritone: (Rovner Bass Clarinet Dark 3RL or Light L10)

And, as @B Flat wrote above, the Rovner Platinum P-3R works also. I like the Platinum on my tenor mouthpiece.

Rhys

 

[Pete Thomas]

like the Platinum on my tenor mouthpiece.

The platinum is good, I found on tenor a slight tweak made it form more nicely to the taper. That was to widen the (non threaded) screw socket by about .5mm.

 

[rhysonsax]

I don't normally buy eBay items that come from China but I was very tempted by the cheap prices for a ligature and a separate cap that I thought looked OK and might work on my PPT baritone. They each were delivered in about a week, with nothing extra to pay and they work fine.

The ligature is nominally for bass clarinet and looks quite like a BG single screw lig but was only £11.36. It seems a little on the large size for the PPT but actually plays really well. Maybe I will add a mouthpiece patch to the top so it fits better. Golden Bass Clarinet Mouthpiece Ligature Clip Screw Fastener For Instrument | eBay

The cap is silicone rubber in the style of ones from Silverstein but only cost £6.24. It fits the PPT baritone really well. Saxophone Mouthpiece Cap Buckle Patches Pads Cap for Baritone Sax Parts | eBay

Both items seem to be available from lots of different Chinese sellers, with the price varying just a little.

Rhys

 

[r. giuseppe]

The BG Flex LFSB Bari fits very well on my PPT Signature Baritone Piece. Excuse me, if someone already mentioned it - I didn’t read all of it.

 

[moxie]

I use a Yanagisawa single screw ligature, I think it was called a Y-lig, however these days I can't seem to find anything about it as they have switched to one they call the SIXS. I can't seem to remember if I bought mine new or used, but it was only a few years ago, not decades! It looks something like this SIXS thing but does not have what look like many little rubber blocks on the inside, and was no where near as expensive. It is all lacquered brass, looks great, and I did install a BG clear patch with a small longitudinal ridge pinched in the middle on top to keep it from scuffing the 'piece. I think if you were to use a reed with a thicker butt end, it may not fit, I use Vandoren blue box.

 

[rhysonsax]

Last week I was near Maidenhead so I took my PPT Signature baritone mouthpiece along to Dawkes to see what ligatures they had that would fit well.

I had an interesting time and was very pleased to have personal help and advice from one of the friendly techs. He remembered that they had some old stock somewhere out the back and brought out a nice BG Tradition (single screw) ligature in lacquer finish and with a cap, marked down to £50. I had read elsewhere (sax.co.uk website) that the L60 is not suitable for Otto Link or Meyer (ebonite) baritone pieces which are slimmer than the Selmer, Vandoren and similar ebonite pieces.

I don't know whether this old stock L60 was a special size, but it fitted the PPT Signature perfectly and works really well with it. The current L60 looks to have been slightly redesigned with a different thumbscrew and also possibly less pronounced "bars" that sit on the reed. And it currently costs about £110 - £120 in the UK.

Inspired by this, I adapted a very cheap Chinese single screw ligature to fit the PPT better by gluing in two lengths of matchsticks which sit on the reed.

It's not nearly as well made as the BG, but now fits well and works OK.

Rhys

 

[Pete Thomas]

Looks great. I think the two sticks like the original Marc Jean can work really well.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Similar to the Selmer single screw. Parallel bars seems the way to go.

 

[Wonko]

You could also do the string lig.
I sometimes do it to enjoy the strange looks I get during band.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_CJyZRAXI
It can get to be a hassle, though, and doesn't enjoy adjustments too much.

I tried this a couple of years ago, works fine!
And now I always cary a piece of string in my sax case, for emergencies.