Intonation Playing: Tone, Intonation, Breathing?

[Pete Thomas]

and? LOL

Intonation's coming home!

(Sorry)

 

[Pete Thomas]

I understand you not wanting to answer for the "tease" affect but without knowing the answer, we can't draw any conclusions from your recordings nor know the point of your posting them. I assume you were making a point in regard to the thread.......

Now the poll is up , I'll answer the tease in a couple of days

Intonation - Intonation poll

Following on from another thread, I thought I'd do an actual poll. Here's a little test. On these these soundclips the alto solo (about 7 seconds in, ie after the break) starts with a held note (G concert) Which of these takes sounds like the best intonation? (This is not a trick question...

cafesaxophone.com

 

[turf3]

Listen to this file. Start at 8:20, listen to the female vocalist's calls. Then starting at 10:06, listen to the male leader's calls.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yliLqLdXa0


You can't notate those expressions. What's the intonation? I'll tell you, the intonation is PERFECT even though you can't even give those notes a name.

The tracks Pete has posted come from the same tradition, African-American improvised music. Note pitch is flexible and it's used for expressiveness. Worrying about pitches is important when practicing and gaining technical skill on the instrument, but when you're performing in the African-American improvised context, you have to listen to what's going on around you and use note pitch just like you use rhythm and articulation for expression.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Blue, dirty, funky, clean, old fashioned. All terms I've heard for "that note".

 

[turf3]

And I'm here to tell you, when the Mississippi Mass Choir perform, nobody on stage OR in the audience is clapping on 1 and 3!!

 

[Pete Effamy]

And I'm here to tell you, when the Mississippi Mass Choir perform, nobody on stage OR in the audience is clapping on 1 and 3!!

Then you’d love our tight-ass ‘rock’ choirs over here. Clapping on 1 and 3 is de rigeur for audience and performer alike. It’s great exercise shouting at the TV.

 

[Pete Thomas]

I understand you not wanting to answer for the "tease" affect but without knowing the answer, we can't draw any conclusions from your recordings nor know the point of your posting them. I assume you were making a point in regard to the thread.......

And the tease is finally over.

Intonation - Intonation poll

Following on from another thread, I thought I'd do an actual poll. Here's a little test. On these these soundclips the alto solo (about 7 seconds in, ie after the break) starts with a held note (G concert) Which of these takes sounds like the best intonation? (This is not a trick question...

cafesaxophone.com

 

[turf3]

Then you’d love our tight-ass ‘rock’ choirs over here. Clapping on 1 and 3 is de rigeur for audience and performer alike. It’s great exercise shouting at the TV.

Well, get on YouTube and key in "MIssissippi Mass Choir" and you'll hear how it is DONE.