My latest music shop visit.

Linky Lee

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I made a trip to my local music shop, Courtney and Walker.
Quite a nice shop, friendly staff and reasonable prices. I went with the intent of trying out a few altos, particularly a 62 and a 901. Gernerally with the aim of trying to find something balanced between the Hanson and Martin I have. I wanted the Martin's ease of top end and the Hanson's rich bottom end and a nice modern keywork.

They didn't stock the 62 because the guy doesn't like them as no one was buying them because they were all going for the 901 over the 62. So I was a bit disappointed. No worries though, he pulled out two Yani 901s, a 991 a Series II Selmer, a La Vie ironically by Selmer USA and a few mouthpieces, a couple Yanigasawa Ebonites and a metal Yanigasawa.

First of all I tried the two Yani 901s. Both had beautiful actions, and are an incredibly light horn but seemed pretty well built and nicely finished, the consistency of Yani's appears to me to be superb, I've never come across an iffy one. I loved the feel of them but the sound wasn't that inspiring. It was a bit light and dull, though it did react very well to dynamics. The only problem was the sound of my Hanson was better (IMO obviously). I've always found my Hanson a bit tight up the top end but easy down the bottom (the reverse with my Martin). The Yani was a bit better at the top and the same as the Hanson down the bottom, but the middle was dead on both of them. One in particular was hard down the bottom end, like the Martin. So away went the Yanigasawas.

He pulled out the Series II Selmer next thinking a bit more punch and so on. It was awful, really tight down the bottom end, not particularly responsive dynamically and the top was satisfactory. The tone was big and a bit boomy I found. I didn't like it at all.

That went away rather quickly and I started experimenting with mouthpieces on the Yanigasawas and my Hanson.

The Yanigasawa ebonites came out first a 6 and a 7. Both were lovely to play though I like the 6 better, the 7 was more like an 8 or maybe even bigger, it was significantly louder, stronger and so on than the 6, but was overkill, especially on the Hanson which is quite a gutsy horn. It did liven the Yanigasawa up nicely though.

The 6 on the Hanson really gave it a nice tone.
Initially before I was there I thought I wanted something more warm and fuzzy to shift my sound towards the sound of the Martin. But I realised with the Yanigasawa want I wanted was a bit more edge and cut, actually a bit more brightness, articulation and energy. The Yanigasawa was more free blowing which I think lends itself to those kinds of properties and after that the Link just seemed a bit dull and stuffy in comparison.

He also brought out a metal Yani 6. That was damn awesome! It was really really loud! and had a huge round sound. Again it was overkill on the Hanson though the Yani was rather nice with it on.

In the end I settled with just the Yanigasawa ebonite 6 and bought myself it as an early Christmas present.

My conclusion by the end of the day was that the keywork on the Hanson could be improved with a little bit of work all round, so it's going back to Hanson for it's annual service next month, and with the new mouthpieces I've got a sound I'm really happy with and it's cutting through a bit more.

I didn't mean to buy anything, and I was actually looking for a tenor mouthpiece and an alto, not an alto mouthpiece. But it's certainly got me thinking. I want to give a metal yanigasawa tenor piece a blow!

I couldn't recommend the Yanigasawa mouthpieces enough. I found them all fantastic!
 
Hi Lee,
Nice that you found something you're happy with.
So tell me please, what do those Yanni mpcs (metal and HR) look like on the inside? I've never had a look at them, and I'm thinking of getting a "normal" mouthpiece after playing exotics for 40 years. Is there baffle or no baffle and how big is the chamber? I've only ever heard good things about them. The web fotos are always the outside view.
gruss - spike
 
well Spike,
the chamber surprised me as it's rather large. It is smaller than the bore but by only about 3mm. My link is about 3mm larger than the bore.

The link has a larger diameter bore than the Yani, there's not much in it, they both fit onto my sax well.

It's very hard to see what the baffle is like, but it appears to be a nice medium roll over, very similar to the link.
It has flat inner walls, whereas the link has concaved walls.

It's also a good 10mm longer than the link, with 5mm of that being in the beak length, the rest being on the bore length.

the beak is also a few mill thinner either side, very comfortable.

it has a longer table and a longer lay than the link, which balances out with the slighter smaller tip opening than the link.

So from all of that I think you could accurately say, it sounds like a mouthpiece.


P.S. I didn't buy the metal one so can't remember what it's like dimension wise. try one Spike, you'll love them I think. They just seem to do whatever you tell them to, even making the tea!
 
Thanks for your post Lee - your time is most appreciated - I shall definitely be checking them out. I don't understand why they don't put proppa photos on the www.

Mr. Mark Foxy - I played bergs on tenor for twenty years, really, in those days i didn't know any different - SMS 115 and 120 for twenty years, most often all day every day, they're still singing in my ears "don't call oozos - we'll call youzos". It's funny but lately, whatever I blow through, it always sounds like me. gruss - spike
 
Like Lee and others I always end up sounding like me - mind you, a lot of what you sound like is going to be down to other things apart from your setup, such as embouchure, how you attack phrases (soft or hard), how you move air through the horn, phrases played etc etc.

Maybe part of what makes a mouthpiece good is how playable you find it, and how close its core sound is to the sound ('your' sound) you hear in your head. On this score I happen to prefer my Selmer or Beechler pieces, which may not be as 'good' as say a Yani (tried one, wasn't me) or a Berg, but they suit me. Which isn't to say I mightn't try something else as my playing (hopefully) develops.
 
I had a Yani Ebo for my Bari and it was poo. A big wide chambered non baffle monster. Mind you, there was a 70 year age difference between the two and I think they just didn't want to be friends. These days I have a Link Bell Metal and it rocks like a beast.
 

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