Intonation Mouthpiece position and tuning

[Vlad]

Or even 'spitting your dummy'

 

[cappers]

Mard

 

[Ballymenaboy]

Please explain I still do not understand what you mean by a paddy??

 

[Targa]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO368WjwyFs&list=RDdO368WjwyFs&start_radio=1

 

[Ballymenaboy]

I understand what Mardy means by definition but where does this relate to " a paddy"...,if it"s use is what I think it means then I consider it offensive and derogatory and cartainly not in the spirit of this site.
There are a number of people from Ireland on this site

 

[Vlad]

Seriously ?..It wasn't relevant to the Irish in the context it was used. I've got lots of Irish family and none would take offence to the word Paddy, unless it was used in an obviously nasty derogatory way.

 

[Ballymenaboy]

well I take offence no matter in what context it is used ..Seriously

 

[Pete Thomas]

@Ballymenaboy @Vlad please take the discussion privately, thanks

 

[Targa]

I understand what Mardy means by definition but where does this relate to " a paddy"...,if it"s use is what I think it means then I consider it offensive and derogatory and cartainly not in the spirit of this site.
There are a number of people from Ireland on this site

No, it's derivation is 'to pad', a little child in a strop will stamp it's feet or bang it's fists.
What looks like the same word can have different derivations.
A paddy field comes from the same 'pad' movement and you wouldn't object to that usage would you?

 

[Pete Effamy]

What is a paddy??

Small “p” 🫣

 

[Vlad]

No, it's derivation is 'to pad', a little child in a strop will stamp it's feet or bang it's fists.
What looks like the same word can have different derivations.
A paddy field comes from the same 'pad' movement and you wouldn't object to that usage would you?

One of the things about the English language, lots of different meanings can be attributed to one word.
The basis of much of it's humour 😉

 

[Vlad]

@Ballymenaboy @Vlad please take the discussion privately, thanks

Point taken sir though tbh I've no desire to get into any discussion about it !
Yikes..I was simply sticking up for whoever first used the term which was clearly taken way out of context

 

[ellinas]

my beaugnier horns tune with the mouthpiece all the way "in". My conn 10m a little bit "out". As long as they speak well, I don't care. But when you tune be careful of the how the horn responds throughout the range. You want a tuning position that lets the horn "speak" and not make you struggle to play in tune. Check the low not notes and the high notes as well. they are sensitive. open c sharp can be sensitive as well. Learn your horn.
Tuning is not only in the mouthpiece position. It's in your mind as well

 

[GCinCT]

One of the things about the English language, lots of different meanings can be attributed to one word.
The basis of much of it's humour 😉

Reminds me of that saying: The U.S. and the UK. Two countries separated by a common language.

 

[Ballymenaboy]

I am now finished with this thread.
Thank you for all the inputs

 

[cappers]

Please explain I still do not understand what you mean by a paddy??

@Ballymenaboy Depends on the context.
- getting upset, angry, having a tantrum.

Also
- a flooded field for growing rice
- unhusked raw rice
- a derogatory term for an Irish person.

Apologies for using the term, no offence meant.
I don't know the derivation of the word 'paddy' for getting upset.

 

[cappers]

@Ballymenaboy Oh dear, more apologies.

Apparently it refers to the Irish complaints about English oppression – so throwing a paddy is a complaint about William of Orange’s troops killing Catholics.

I had no idea, I thought it was to do with foot stomping the rice seedlings in the 'padi' fields. Unfortunately there are many expressions with obscure etymologies and I missed the racial connotation. Again no offence meant.

 

[Dr G]

No keep asking questions here, a lot of people learn from the discussion. It’s important to accept though that answers will not always be black and white.

That is to say that it is not always easy for someone to tell the correct answer when so many answers are so freely shared.

On a not unrelated topic: What is the weight ratio of wheat:chaff? What is their volume ratio? For the people that delight in the minuscule and the mundane, what is the relevance of the ratio of the ratios?

 

[Targa]

@Ballymenaboy Oh dear, more apologies.

Apparently it refers to the Irish complaints about English oppression – so throwing a paddy is a complaint about William of Orange’s troops killing Catholics.

First time in seventy years I've heard of that.
Probably just an 'internet so it must be true' by people who do not know the original definition.
I suppose no one can sing 'This old man' any more because someone somewhere will decide to be offended.

 

[turf3]

@Ballymenaboy Oh dear, more apologies.
...Unfortunately there are many expressions with obscure etymologies and I missed the racial connotation. Again no offence meant.

Last I checked, Irish and English are of the same race.