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Jmoen3

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So, the true distinction is the facing length is on the table. And the chamber is marked on the shank. The best way to refer to meyers is with two distinctions, 5MM for example is a 5 tip with medium chamber and medium facing length, which is the most common.

So there are many combinations possible.
 
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ptg

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Any reason why?
I like the Jody Jazz paired with the 2-1/2 reed as it does seem to blow easier for me. (Harder on the intonation, however.) But the Meyer seems to have a warmer sound so I was hoping for the combination of the two.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Pete!
 

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I like the Jody Jazz paired with the 2-1/2 reed as it does seem to blow easier for me. (Harder on the intonation, however.) But the Meyer seems to have a warmer sound so I was hoping for the combination of the two.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Pete!
Erm, not that I'm big on self promotion...but...
 

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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Pete!
Go for a PPT! I have a couple for tenor that I love and a baritone one that I am not taming yet but that because I don't practice baritone enough.
 

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That person may have been referring to the tip opening size.
6-7 is not drastically different, but enough that you’d notice it.
A 6L is a 6 tip opening with a large chamber.
A 7s is a 7 tip with a small chamber.
To understand chamber sizes a little more it might be worth visiting Theo Wanne’s sight, where he explains it more clearly.
 

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That’s impressive. I’m fascinated that I’m so into this topic

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I never thought I’d be so into saxophone mouthpieces.
Seriously interesting stuff. I’m going to read up on this. Mine is definitely not a New York one. Holy smokes. I just saw the price of them and my jaw dropped. I paid about $200 to $300 for mine and it was well worth it
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Ah ok...I missed it that you included a photo earlier. I should leave this to the mouthpiece specialists (we have some here), but the ink style and stamps -- sort of "bleedy" and blotchy, usually go with a lower quality of production, but your facing looks pretty good to me?

I think the major break is when Ralph Morgan and some of his apprentices ceased to hand finish every piece?

I state it as a question because others may know (or remember) more than me and be able to correct me and/or offer more detail.

Morgan made very good pieces under his own name. I believe the guys at Mouthpiece Cafe are responsible for the hand finishing for pieces from a certain period (for which I don't know the years, but I believe there are comments on both these subjects in Theo Wanne's notes in his Mouthpiece Museum).
 

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Ah ok...I missed it that you included a photo earlier. I should leave this to the mouthpiece specialists (we have some here), but the ink style and stamps -- sort of "bleedy" and blotchy, usually go with a lower quality of production, but your facing looks pretty good to me?

I think the major break is when Ralph Morgan and some of his apprentices ceased to hand finish every piece?

I state it as a question because others may know (or remember) more than me and be able to correct me and/or offer more detail.

Morgan made very good pieces under his own name. I believe the guys at Mouthpiece Cafe are responsible for the hand finishing for pieces from a certain period (for which I don't know the years, but I believe there are comments on both these subjects in Theo Wanne's notes in his Mouthpiece Museum).
No worries.

I actually think the mouthpiece is older than 30 years because I bought them before I met my husband and from what I remembered it played very well. My alto needs new pads and I can’t get some notes so haven’t played it since I purchased my soprano.

I’ve got a Morgan Excalibur 6 C or 6E. Is there such a thing as a 6E? This is etched into the silver band which is a serial # 12659. I believe it IS a great mouthpiece as I used it often.

Can that plastic piece be replaced that the teeth rests on? I believe I saw some of those sold separately

You can tell how little I know about saxophone mouthpieces. I was fortunate enough to have some excellent professional saxophone player friends who were always offering to help me out which is probably why I picked the ones I did.

It’s only been the last month that I’ve started realizing how much some of these specialized mouthpieces cost; like Theo Wannes but he must be really confident in his mouthpieces to offer so much information about other manufacturers mouthpieces on his site. It’s very informative.

Here are my three together
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Here’s my Meyer & Morgan together

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Wade Cornell

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Morgan Excalibur is my #1 for bright, but still round tone that's got lots of harmonic spread. They don't get better IMHO. I've got lots of other brighter or darker pieces, but the Morgan gets used 80% of the time. I've gone through a lot of mouthpieces that were much more expensive. None of them come close.
 
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Morgan Excalibur is my #1 for bright, but still round tone that's got lots of harmonic spread. They don't get better IMHO. I've got lots of other brighter or darker pieces, but the Morgan gets used 80% of the time. I've gone through a lot of mouthpieces that were much more expensive. None of them come close.
Interesting...never even heard of them...Thanks!
 
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ptg

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Yes I brought it into the conversation with pictures. Post #29.
Sorry, yes, I saw that. I was just remarking that you regard them so highly and I had never heard of them.:)

I have to tell you though, with all of the different brands and all of the different specs, my head hurts.
 

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Sorry, yes, I saw that. I was just remarking that you regard them so highly and I had never heard of them.:)

I have to tell you though, with all of the different brands and all of the different specs, my head hurts.
Mine too. I was just being cheeky cause that’s what I do. :w00t:
It’s been a while since I used my Morgan but I do remember it to be an easy to play mouthpiece and I’m just a regular member with nothing to gain in my sharing. I believe it was recommended to me by my stage band teacher who knew his stuff. I’m currently only playing my soprano and using a Selmer Mp.

Having said all that, I think a mouthpiece is as personal a preference as the instrument you pick to play. People have different mouth shapes, different embouchures, different teeth, different air projections, different angles of playing. Some put more of the mouthpiece in the mouth while others don’t. Some add more lip pressure etc., etc., etc.,

With all these differences, we aren’t all going to have the same experiences with the same mouthpiece.

I hope I haven’t confused you more.
For myself every mouthpiece purchase was another learning experience worth having and I have no regrets.
 

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I'm another Morgan fan. I have a Morgan 3c for tenor that is very good. For alto I currently can't decide between the Excalibur and the 5M.
 
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