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Saxophones Model of Amati Kraslice Tenor from 1986?

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Interesting, it looks different to the Amati saxes I've had as well. This one looks better quality. Is that rolled tone holes I can see? Some more pics would be a big help.
Thanks for your reply.

Yes it has rolled toneholes. From the feel of it and the tone it seems somewhere between a Classic Deluxe and a Super Classic. I could be totally wrong but I have a feeling it was a limited run between these two models or else at the end of the Super Classic model although the neck is more like the design of a Deluxe than a Super. There’s no ‘made in Czechoslovakia’ like I would have expected. Has real mother of Pearl key thingies (I think) and the large left hand pinky table like the other earlier models. I’ll post more pics this evening.
 
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It looks sort of familiar but different. Nice though.
 
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The early Amati saxes had tolled toneholes (gebördelt). Often named "Toneking" and with the JKG stamp. Around 1955 Amati began to stamp thier saxes with "Made in Czeckoslvakai". A serial number 57 or 5700 is early and ended around #20000. The Classic modell came around 1955.
 
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The early Amati saxes had tolled toneholes (gebördelt). Often named "Toneking" and with the JKG stamp. Around 1955 Amati began to stamp thier saxes with "Made in Czeckoslvakai". A serial number 57 or 5700 is early and ended around #20000. The Classic modell came around 1955.
Thank you Thom. I have one of the Tonekings with rolled toneholes and JKG stamp. Lovely lovely big fat sound. I also had a Super Deluxe and a Classic but of which were stamped ‘made in Czechoslovakia’. Maybe this new one is from just before the Toneking era although my Toneking has a microtuner neck and is stamped ‘made in..’ All quite confusing.
 
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Thank you Thom. I have one of the Tonekings with rolled toneholes and JKG stamp. Lovely lovely big fat sound. I also had a Super Deluxe and a Classic but of which were stamped ‘made in Czechoslovakia’. Maybe this new one is from just before the Toneking era although my Toneking has a microtuner neck and is stamped ‘made in..’ All quite confusing.
The "Classic" model started around 1955 and ended c 1972. "Super Classic" and "Classic Deluxe" models started c 1972 to c 1990. Amati improved thier saxes over the years. The "Classic Deluxe" model had better details, materials and probably a better factory set-up. My first Amati tenor was a used "Louis Robert" (a Super Classic stencil) that I bought used in 1973. I also wanted to sound like my tenor heros; John Fogerty, Bobby Keys and Clarence Clemons. :) (EDIT: "The Classic Deluxe" reached the market later than 1972. I'm not sure but I think in the late 70's or early 80's.)
 
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Thanks Thom. I hope you were able to sound like your heros!

I didn’t get time to post more photos yesterday. I’ll do it today.
 
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Thanks Thom. I hope you were able to sound like your heros!

I didn’t get time to post more photos yesterday. I’ll do it today.
I did my best ..... but I'm still struggling. I'll always be a beginner. I started to "play" in the late 60's and 50+ years later I still playing the same music and doing mistakes. I'm thriving with "Rock & Roll Saxophone";). An ongoing and lifelong project.
 
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I did my best ..... but I'm still struggling. I'll always be a beginner. I started to "play" in the late 60's and 50+ years later I still playing the same music and doing mistakes. I'm thriving with "Rock & Roll Saxophone";). An ongoing and lifelong project.
I think playing any instrument even if you’re really good is a lifelong path of improvement
 
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Blurred photos are just tantalising.;)
 
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Just in thread. They're very clear when clicked. :headscratch:
 
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Is it ok to resurrect this thread?

YES ! It’s always better to add onto a existing thread of the same subject. This keeps the information in one place.
 
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On the other side the thread started as a .... .1986 Amati ..... and we are now talking about an early Amati from the first part of the 50's.
 
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On the other side the thread started as a .... .1986 Amati ..... and we are now talking about an early Amati from the first part of the 50's.
So I should have started a new thread then? I thought it was better to keep questions about Amati manufacture dates in one place rather than start something new. Sorry about that.
 
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Personally I like threads that discuss the in‘s & outs of different years on one maker, in one place.
I see no reason to start another thread. But that’s just me.
SOTW is insane trying to research some horns.….a zillion threads with one or two questions and answers. Could/ should be in one place.
 
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Thank you Thom. I have one of the Tonekings with rolled toneholes and JKG stamp. Lovely lovely big fat sound. I also had a Super Deluxe and a Classic but of which were stamped ‘made in Czechoslovakia’. Maybe this new one is from just before the Toneking era although my Toneking has a microtuner neck and is stamped ‘made in..’ All quite confusing.
So I should have started a new thread then? I thought it was better to keep questions about Amati manufacture dates in one place rather than start something new. Sorry about that.
No, for me it's ok. I know the difference between your Amati and a ATS from the 90's. But it can be confusing for a person that is searching information about Amati saxes.
 

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