Saxophones Model of Amati Kraslice Tenor from 1986?

[ferguscullen]

Interesting, it looks different to the Amati saxes I've had as well. This one looks better quality. Is that rolled tone holes I can see? Some more pics would be a big help.

Thanks for your reply.

Yes it has rolled toneholes. From the feel of it and the tone it seems somewhere between a Classic Deluxe and a Super Classic. I could be totally wrong but I have a feeling it was a limited run between these two models or else at the end of the Super Classic model although the neck is more like the design of a Deluxe than a Super. There’s no ‘made in Czechoslovakia’ like I would have expected. Has real mother of Pearl key thingies (I think) and the large left hand pinky table like the other earlier models. I’ll post more pics this evening.

 

[Colin the Bear]

It looks sort of familiar but different. Nice though.

 

[thomsax]

The early Amati saxes had tolled toneholes (gebördelt). Often named "Toneking" and with the JKG stamp. Around 1955 Amati began to stamp thier saxes with "Made in Czeckoslvakai". A serial number 57 or 5700 is early and ended around #20000. The Classic modell came around 1955.

 

[ferguscullen]

It looks sort of familiar but different. Nice though.

Thanks Colin

 

[ferguscullen]

The early Amati saxes had tolled toneholes (gebördelt). Often named "Toneking" and with the JKG stamp. Around 1955 Amati began to stamp thier saxes with "Made in Czeckoslvakai". A serial number 57 or 5700 is early and ended around #20000. The Classic modell came around 1955.

Thank you Thom. I have one of the Tonekings with rolled toneholes and JKG stamp. Lovely lovely big fat sound. I also had a Super Deluxe and a Classic but of which were stamped ‘made in Czechoslovakia’. Maybe this new one is from just before the Toneking era although my Toneking has a microtuner neck and is stamped ‘made in..’ All quite confusing.

 

[thomsax]

Thank you Thom. I have one of the Tonekings with rolled toneholes and JKG stamp. Lovely lovely big fat sound. I also had a Super Deluxe and a Classic but of which were stamped ‘made in Czechoslovakia’. Maybe this new one is from just before the Toneking era although my Toneking has a microtuner neck and is stamped ‘made in..’ All quite confusing.

The "Classic" model started around 1955 and ended c 1972. "Super Classic" and "Classic Deluxe" models started c 1972 to c 1990. Amati improved thier saxes over the years. The "Classic Deluxe" model had better details, materials and probably a better factory set-up. My first Amati tenor was a used "Louis Robert" (a Super Classic stencil) that I bought used in 1973. I also wanted to sound like my tenor heros; John Fogerty, Bobby Keys and Clarence Clemons. (EDIT: "The Classic Deluxe" reached the market later than 1972. I'm not sure but I think in the late 70's or early 80's.)

 

[ferguscullen]

Thanks Thom. I hope you were able to sound like your heros!

I didn’t get time to post more photos yesterday. I’ll do it today.

 

[thomsax]

Thanks Thom. I hope you were able to sound like your heros!

I didn’t get time to post more photos yesterday. I’ll do it today.

I did my best ..... but I'm still struggling. I'll always be a beginner. I started to "play" in the late 60's and 50+ years later I still playing the same music and doing mistakes. I'm thriving with "Rock & Roll Saxophone". An ongoing and lifelong project.

 

[ferguscullen]

 

[ferguscullen]

Some more photos

 

[ferguscullen]

I did my best ..... but I'm still struggling. I'll always be a beginner. I started to "play" in the late 60's and 50+ years later I still playing the same music and doing mistakes. I'm thriving with "Rock & Roll Saxophone". An ongoing and lifelong project.

I think playing any instrument even if you’re really good is a lifelong path of improvement

 

[Colin the Bear]

Blurred photos are just tantalising.

 

[ferguscullen]

Blurred photos are just tantalising.

They’re not blurred my end.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Just in thread. They're very clear when clicked.

 

[ferguscullen]

Just in thread. They're very clear when clicked.

Are they usually clear in thumbnail? If I made some mistake I’m sorry

 

[PigSquealer]

Is it ok to resurrect this thread?

Does this soldering look ok?

Good morning I'm thinking of buying an alto that is in really nice condition except for some soldering work on the neck/crook. Apparently it can't be seen from inside the crook so I'm guessing the repair person knew what they were doing. Does it look like a good job? Would there be any problems...

cafesaxophone.com

YES ! It’s always better to add onto a existing thread of the same subject. This keeps the information in one place.

 

[thomsax]

On the other side the thread started as a .... .1986 Amati ..... and we are now talking about an early Amati from the first part of the 50's.

 

[ferguscullen]

On the other side the thread started as a .... .1986 Amati ..... and we are now talking about an early Amati from the first part of the 50's.

So I should have started a new thread then? I thought it was better to keep questions about Amati manufacture dates in one place rather than start something new. Sorry about that.

 

[PigSquealer]

Personally I like threads that discuss the in‘s & outs of different years on one maker, in one place.
I see no reason to start another thread. But that’s just me.
SOTW is insane trying to research some horns.….a zillion threads with one or two questions and answers. Could/ should be in one place.

 

[thomsax]

Thank you Thom. I have one of the Tonekings with rolled toneholes and JKG stamp. Lovely lovely big fat sound. I also had a Super Deluxe and a Classic but of which were stamped ‘made in Czechoslovakia’. Maybe this new one is from just before the Toneking era although my Toneking has a microtuner neck and is stamped ‘made in..’ All quite confusing.

So I should have started a new thread then? I thought it was better to keep questions about Amati manufacture dates in one place rather than start something new. Sorry about that.

No, for me it's ok. I know the difference between your Amati and a ATS from the 90's. But it can be confusing for a person that is searching information about Amati saxes.