Saxophone reviews Keilwerth ST90 - Student model worthy of consideration

[murrayatuptown]

OK, I have a strange question.

I was looking for a Keilwerth stencil alto. I quit playing in 1992 & sold my horns. My alto then was a student Yamaha. I learned about the huge Keilwerth family tree this year. The last guy I studied with had a Keilwerth alto and a Couf Tenor. He was featured in a 1970's Keilwerth catalog.

So I found one of the most orphanly of the Keilwerth stencils, a Jubilee student horn from the (western?) Canadian market. s/n is 67xxx, if consistent with JK s/n's 1970-71?

This whole idea may not have been the wisest, but it needed work and I don't like mildew case odor. Does ANYBODY? It's just unhip.

I had it overhauled and picked it up. I could get a no-name hinged replacement rectangular case anywhere, but is it possible to buy a replacement case for the lowliest ST90 version currently made? I'm assuming it has the glory of displaying a JK or Julius Keilwerth logo.

Say someone had the worst luck in the world and their case got skunked. Buying a replacement case must be possible somehow, or that's wishful thinking.

I didn't want to go too wild with my second life in saxophone and got obsessed with JK. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking with it.

Thank for any help, or for your laughter.

I am going to look for a nearby JK dealer, if there is one to be found, but this discussion appeared during my search.

Murray
Michigan

 

[thomsax]

I have a 60XXX New King (c 1968) and it's a tenor wide bow and the are also longer than an average tenor sax. The last ST90 were made by "Jupiter" so I'm not sure it will fit in the case. I had never heard of a Keilwerth Jubilee student sax. The Keilwerth Jubilee was/is a model based on the Toneking model. Top instrumetnsts. But maybe the made more than one Jubilee model?

 

[murrayatuptown]

This is definitely a student horn. No high f# key, no rolled tone holes.

Thank you for the observation of physical size differences. Mine barely fits in its English case with a neck receiver plug (which means there isn't much padding on that side.

The place that overhauled it has plenty of used items in-house. I can make sure to verify fit (and fragrance).

Thank you

 

[thomsax]

Back in the late 60's Keilwerths student saxes were made by Amati. My New King is an intermediate model without high F# and without rolled toneholes. I can't get the New King down in a Hiscox case. Too long and too wide.

 

[murrayatuptown]

Does a Made in Germany stamp by s/n perhaps mean Completed in Germany? (mine would be1970-71? based on 67023 (IIRC)

 

[murrayatuptown]

I'm just happy its a sax again and its brass. Keeping my expectations reasonable

 

[thomsax]

Does a Made in Germany stamp by s/n perhaps mean Completed in Germany? (mine would be1970-71? based on 67023 (IIRC)

To be frank, I don't know. I have some german built saxes all after WWII. In the 50's Keilwerth just "Made In Germany". The NewKing is stamped "West-Germany" and so are the Dörfler und Jörka stecils (the body/tube was made by Keilwerth, keys and neck by D&J). Trust the serial nunber

 

[wakyct]

Trust the serial nunber

Is the serial on a Keilwerth stencil always stamped by Keilwerth? I've wondered this about my jean barre alto. Repairs have erased any logo near the s/n on the tube. 'Made in Germany' is stamped on a side key arm. A tech recently said it reminded him of a Couf.

 

[thomsax]

I have some Keilwerth made saxes. My Keilwerths from the 50's have info stamped on the back close to the thumbrest. The name Keillwerth ... and best in world ....... . I also have Dörfler und Jörka without the name Keilwerth. Even the NewKing tenor from -68 is without the name Keilwerth on the sax. I think Keilwerth bought Dörfler und Jörka in the mid 60's.

 

[DavidUK]

One here, no idea which series or it it's good value...

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