Mouthpiece reviews Kanee Mouthpiece Pass-Around - Alto pieces reviews

Not great at this reviewing malarkey but here goes....
NY6 large chamber has a warm sound using zz’s 2 and jazz select 2M, i likes this mouthpiece the best of the 3
NY8 medium chamber
[BGCOLOR=transparent]Not too fussy on this one don’t know why, probably just the sound i was making so didn’t spend a lot of time in this one.[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=transparent]Studio 8 [/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=transparent]Wow !! This is loud, bright easy to blow, probably a bit too bright for my liking. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=transparent]I did use these mouthpieces on both a modern and vintage horn and they played no problem with either horn.[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=transparent]Would like to try a slightly smaller tip than the 8’s, i think I’d be more comfortable on a 6 7 7* [/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=transparent]Thanks for the opportunity to try them out Russ [/BGCOLOR]
Thanks for the review Kev, it's much appreciated. I said I would talk to Fletch when I get some bigger tip openings for the Tenor Studio, I could also send you a different one if you wish.

Cheers
Russ
 
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Thanks for the review Kev, it's much appreciated. I said I would talk to Fletch when I get some bigger tip openings for the Tenor Studio, I could also send you a different one if you wish.

Cheers
Russ

That would be great Russ and very much appreciated, I will definitely be taking one of them, I just would love to try the next few sizes up also before committing to which model, if it will be more convenient we'll sort it out to send them to just 1 of us to save on postage if that's more convenient.

It's funny actually, trimmy left me with the mouthpiece I liked for a few days. After he left I had a blow and wasn't feeling it the same as before, thought nothing of it and played it a few more times. Anyway, I thought the piece just wasn't for me after all and was ready to move on with my usual lebayle mouthpiece. As I took the mouthpiece off I noticed the name was Florida, we'd only somehow managed to mix them up and I got left with the wrong one, instead of the studio. When he came to pick it up he had the others with him, I swapped it over for the studio and oh my god, that's the fella for me, it was instant, it just feels great.

Anyway, thanks to trimmy for sorting this, it was a fun afternoon playing with new toys and thanks to Russ for sending them out, can't wait to finalise my piece and get playing on it permanently.
 
I can't remember if there have been any pictures posted of the alto pieces, so from left to right - NY Large Chamber, NY Medium Chamber and the Studio

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Kanee Alto Mouthpieces review - done with a Martin Indiana alto and a soft Bari Star plastic reed

I first encountered Kanee mouthpieces about 5 or 6 years ago, there was one going cheap on Ebay so I googled and found that someone in Wales was selling them (it may have been South Wales Woodwind). There was a range of different models, but the one I got off Ebay was the Z6 which seems to have been influenced by Theo Wanne's Kali or Durga. It's a pretty decent mouthpiece and I played it for a while but the Lawton 8*BB was better for general demolition work and room clearance, so the Kanee went in the box next to all the other failed contenders for the heavyweight championship.
Kanee mouthpieces faded from view and last time I saw any for sale they were remaindered stock being sold by Dr Sax and Junkdude in America a while ago.
:Last year I spotted some new Kanee mouthpieces on Ebay and became curious about them, so when this passaround started up I was interested to see what fresh delights Kanee had come up with...

first impressions...
All of them are nicely made and the engraving is nicely done, so they look very professional. I can't tell if the facings are hand finished or not, but from the player's perspective have no imperfections that hamper playability.
The beak profiles are all quite slim, which you may or may not like. Personally I'm happy with that - some mouthpieces are a bit of a gob full and aren't too comfortable over a long period, but these are very user friendly.
A normal 2 screw metal ligature fits them ok - there's a little bit of variation in the outside diameter with the NY medium chamber being slightly smaller and the Studio slightly bigger but well within the adjustment range of the lig - this may seem like a small detail, but it's amazing the amount of mouthpieces that have been made that don't fit a standard lig and the makers can't be bothered telling you what size Rovner will fit..
Likewise, these Kanees all fit my neck cork reasonably well... ok, I've not actually got a neck cork anymore, it's actually all PTFE plumber's tape, but it works for me. Again, some mouthpieces are made with little regard to standardisation and are very loose or too tight...

so, what are they actually like to play?

The NY Large Chamber
Similar to an Otto Link Tone Edge - fat and dark and conducive to sultry ballads and the loosening of morals and undergarments - that's how I think of my Tone Edge. Smooth dark chocolate comes to mind...
The Kanee is close to that, but a bit more controlled and with less harmonic richness, but it's still dark and fattening and it won't take long before you start plotting the seduction of your loved one and digging out all the old slushy ballads you can think of.
Comparing it to my Tone Edge, I'd say that the Tone Edge is a bit broader sounding, more spread and more complex, whereas the Kanee is a bit smoother and more buttery, but there's not a lot in it and on a brighter horn than a Martin the Kanee might have a bit more oomph and reveal more complexity..
The altissimo is slightly easier than the Link, although neither of them are brilliant in that dept - these kind of mouthpieces require a bit of work to get the most out of them so I reckon with plenty of practice I'd get there. But really, who'd want to do anything so vulgar as altissimo on this kind of mouthpiece?
If you like a nice leather armchair, a generous whisky and soda and smoke a pipe, then this is the mouthpiece for you.. riff raff need not apply.
after I wrote this I looked on the Kanee website and this mouthpiece is modeled on a Meyer NY Large Chamber and not a Link Tone Edge, but without a sizeable bank loan I'll never be able to find out what one of those actually sounds like..
tip opening is a 6 - .076"

The NY Medium Chamber
I've never played a Meyer, but I have got a Jody Jazz HR, so that's my benchmark for this kind of piece.
Awwl-riii-ght, the NYMC plays very nicely, zips across the registers, altissimo all there with little effort, nice beboppy tone that gets a bit edgy if you push it hard. I could play a gig on this no problem and if all I wanted to do was play like Jackie Maclean then this'd do the job with no complaint.
I dug out the Jody HR to compare the two..
Hmm, well in a blindfold test I'd be hard pushed to tell them apart, the JJHR is perhaps a touch warmer, but the Kanee maybe has a bit more focus and projection - maybe a touch more rollover to the baffle. Of the two I'd pick the Jody Jazz, but the Kanee is the one I want to go back to and explore - it's responsive and tonally flexible. You can shape it's sound with your embouchure and throat in a way that some mouthpieces won't do.
You'll not need to wear a tie to play this thing, but a fondness for rizlas and dark glasses might help..
incidentally my JJHR is a 6M .078 and the Kanee NYM is an 8 .084 but to me there wasn't any noticeable difference. The Kanee was very easy to play.

The Studio
I was saving this til last, since I like plenty of baffle to chew on...
I've never understood why bright high baffle mouthpieces are often called 'studio' mouthpieces, surely you'd want something nicer sounding in a studio and use this kind of equipment in a live situation when you need to cut through, but there again I don't know why they're called 'high' baffles when they're actually lower down and nearer to the reed when in use.. we could start a separate thread on things we don't understand about saxpophone terminology..
OK, this I didn't expect, after 15 minutes of fun torturing the neighbours with burning zoo noises I took a break and forgot which mouthpice was on the horn and then came back and blew it softly thinking it was the NY Medium and thought how sweet it sounded and how nice the subtone was and then discovered that it was the Studio. This thing will do paint peeling and other abrasive DIY tasks, but if you back off it'll sound rather pretty and you can play quiet delicate stuff on it in the altissimo register if that's your thing.
I compared it to my old Kanee Z6 and that was more strident and one dimensional despite it's large chamber, longer window and more rounded baffle. The Kanee Studio also has a large chamber but for some reason the flat baffle and bullet into the throat don't make it as aggressive as you'd expect, it's a more refined kind of aggression, like an old fashioned Bond villain.
A Jumbo Java sounded crude and thin in comparison and a Berg Larsen has more mid range growl. I like Bergs but the facings make them hard work in comparison to this.
My Lawton BB has more clout than the Studio, but perhaps a bigger tip opening would even up the score, this is only an 8 - .084", so I'd need one that goes up to 11..
I preferred the playability and versatility of the Kanee Studio to a Rico Metalite, Lebayle Studio, Brancher B27, Vandoren Jumbo Java, Dukoff M7 and some of the Berg Larsens I've owned. I expected it to be relentlessly bright and edgy, only suitable for cutting glass and shredding eardrums, but it's capable of more subtlety than that - it does quiet as well as loud and is sweetly viscious, like a leather clad angel in hob nailed boots.
The facing is good enough to do octave bends across the altissimo register and doesn't squeak as much as some high powered mouthpieces can. Multiphonics aren't as abundant as a Lawton, but they can be found if you look into the dark recesses of your soul... or fingering charts.
Recommended for bolsheviks, anarchists, troublemakers, depraved social misfits and fans of John Zorn..

in general I'm impressed by these 3 mouthpieces, for the price of £79.50 they're well worth considering - an Otto Link, Meyer or a Jody Jazz HR would cost you significantly more and the differences aren't that great. Admittedly I have my own peculiar tastes in the kind of response I want out of my equipment, so I'm not the typical end user for this kind of gear. But I've played quite a few mouthpieces and know how to push them to their limits and these seem like good examples of the mouthpiece maker's craft.
One good thing about this passaround is that people get to try mouthpiece types that they may not be familiar with, so not only does the maker get some feedback about their work but we get to broaden our experience of the tonal possibilities of our instruments.
It often takes a few weeks to really get into what any mouthpiece can do, so a few days isn't enough time to get a proper view of what's on offer, but there's enough potential here that may tempt a few of us to prise our wallets open.
 
Kanee Alto Mouthpieces review - done with a Martin Indiana alto and a soft Bari Star plastic reed

I first encountered Kanee mouthpieces about 5 or 6 years ago, there was one going cheap on Ebay so I googled and found that someone in Wales was selling them (it may have been South Wales Woodwind). There was a range of different models, but the one I got off Ebay was the Z6 which seems to have been influenced by Theo Wanne's Kali or Durga. It's a pretty decent mouthpiece and I played it for a while but the Lawton 8*BB was better for general demolition work and room clearance, so the Kanee went in the box next to all the other failed contenders for the heavyweight championship.
Kanee mouthpieces faded from view and last time I saw any for sale they were remaindered stock being sold by Dr Sax and Junkdude in America a while ago.
:Last year I spotted some new Kanee mouthpieces on Ebay and became curious about them, so when this passaround started up I was interested to see what fresh delights Kanee had come up with...

first impressions...
All of them are nicely made and the engraving is nicely done, so they look very professional. I can't tell if the facings are hand finished or not, but from the player's perspective have no imperfections that hamper playability.
The beak profiles are all quite slim, which you may or may not like. Personally I'm happy with that - some mouthpieces are a bit of a gob full and aren't too comfortable over a long period, but these are very user friendly.
A normal 2 screw metal ligature fits them ok - there's a little bit of variation in the outside diameter with the NY medium chamber being slightly smaller and the Studio slightly bigger but well within the adjustment range of the lig - this may seem like a small detail, but it's amazing the amount of mouthpieces that have been made that don't fit a standard lig and the makers can't be bothered telling you what size Rovner will fit..
Likewise, these Kanees all fit my neck cork reasonably well... ok, I've not actually got a neck cork anymore, it's actually all PTFE plumber's tape, but it works for me. Again, some mouthpieces are made with little regard to standardisation and are very loose or too tight...

so, what are they actually like to play?

The NY Large Chamber
Similar to an Otto Link Tone Edge - fat and dark and conducive to sultry ballads and the loosening of morals and undergarments - that's how I think of my Tone Edge. Smooth dark chocolate comes to mind...
The Kanee is close to that, but a bit more controlled and with less harmonic richness, but it's still dark and fattening and it won't take long before you start plotting the seduction of your loved one and digging out all the old slushy ballads you can think of.
Comparing it to my Tone Edge, I'd say that the Tone Edge is a bit broader sounding, more spread and more complex, whereas the Kanee is a bit smoother and more buttery, but there's not a lot in it and on a brighter horn than a Martin the Kanee might have a bit more oomph and reveal more complexity..
The altissimo is slightly easier than the Link, although neither of them are brilliant in that dept - these kind of mouthpieces require a bit of work to get the most out of them so I reckon with plenty of practice I'd get there. But really, who'd want to do anything so vulgar as altissimo on this kind of mouthpiece?
If you like a nice leather armchair, a generous whisky and soda and smoke a pipe, then this is the mouthpiece for you.. riff raff need not apply.
after I wrote this I looked on the Kanee website and this mouthpiece is modeled on a Meyer NY Large Chamber and not a Link Tone Edge, but without a sizeable bank loan I'll never be able to find out what one of those actually sounds like..
tip opening is a 6 - .076"

The NY Medium Chamber
I've never played a Meyer, but I have got a Jody Jazz HR, so that's my benchmark for this kind of piece.
Awwl-riii-ght, the NYMC plays very nicely, zips across the registers, altissimo all there with little effort, nice beboppy tone that gets a bit edgy if you push it hard. I could play a gig on this no problem and if all I wanted to do was play like Jackie Maclean then this'd do the job with no complaint.
I dug out the Jody HR to compare the two..
Hmm, well in a blindfold test I'd be hard pushed to tell them apart, the JJHR is perhaps a touch warmer, but the Kanee maybe has a bit more focus and projection - maybe a touch more rollover to the baffle. Of the two I'd pick the Jody Jazz, but the Kanee is the one I want to go back to and explore - it's responsive and tonally flexible. You can shape it's sound with your embouchure and throat in a way that some mouthpieces won't do.
You'll not need to wear a tie to play this thing, but a fondness for rizlas and dark glasses might help..
incidentally my JJHR is a 6M .078 and the Kanee NYM is an 8 .084 but to me there wasn't any noticeable difference. The Kanee was very easy to play.

The Studio
I was saving this til last, since I like plenty of baffle to chew on...
I've never understood why bright high baffle mouthpieces are often called 'studio' mouthpieces, surely you'd want something nicer sounding in a studio and use this kind of equipment in a live situation when you need to cut through, but there again I don't know why they're called 'high' baffles when they're actually lower down and nearer to the reed when in use.. we could start a separate thread on things we don't understand about saxpophone terminology..
OK, this I didn't expect, after 15 minutes of fun torturing the neighbours with burning zoo noises I took a break and forgot which mouthpice was on the horn and then came back and blew it softly thinking it was the NY Medium and thought how sweet it sounded and how nice the subtone was and then discovered that it was the Studio. This thing will do paint peeling and other abrasive DIY tasks, but if you back off it'll sound rather pretty and you can play quiet delicate stuff on it in the altissimo register if that's your thing.
I compared it to my old Kanee Z6 and that was more strident and one dimensional despite it's large chamber, longer window and more rounded baffle. The Kanee Studio also has a large chamber but for some reason the flat baffle and bullet into the throat don't make it as aggressive as you'd expect, it's a more refined kind of aggression, like an old fashioned Bond villain.
A Jumbo Java sounded crude and thin in comparison and a Berg Larsen has more mid range growl. I like Bergs but the facings make them hard work in comparison to this.
My Lawton BB has more clout than the Studio, but perhaps a bigger tip opening would even up the score, this is only an 8 - .084", so I'd need one that goes up to 11..
I preferred the playability and versatility of the Kanee Studio to a Rico Metalite, Lebayle Studio, Brancher B27, Vandoren Jumbo Java, Dukoff M7 and some of the Berg Larsens I've owned. I expected it to be relentlessly bright and edgy, only suitable for cutting glass and shredding eardrums, but it's capable of more subtlety than that - it does quiet as well as loud and is sweetly viscious, like a leather clad angel in hob nailed boots.
The facing is good enough to do octave bends across the altissimo register and doesn't squeak as much as some high powered mouthpieces can. Multiphonics aren't as abundant as a Lawton, but they can be found if you look into the dark recesses of your soul... or fingering charts.
Recommended for bolsheviks, anarchists, troublemakers, depraved social misfits and fans of John Zorn..

in general I'm impressed by these 3 mouthpieces, for the price of £79.50 they're well worth considering - an Otto Link, Meyer or a Jody Jazz HR would cost you significantly more and the differences aren't that great. Admittedly I have my own peculiar tastes in the kind of response I want out of my equipment, so I'm not the typical end user for this kind of gear. But I've played quite a few mouthpieces and know how to push them to their limits and these seem like good examples of the mouthpiece maker's craft.
One good thing about this passaround is that people get to try mouthpiece types that they may not be familiar with, so not only does the maker get some feedback about their work but we get to broaden our experience of the tonal possibilities of our instruments.
It often takes a few weeks to really get into what any mouthpiece can do, so a few days isn't enough time to get a proper view of what's on offer, but there's enough potential here that may tempt a few of us to prise our wallets open.
It is good to read such a detailed and well written review by someone with much more skill than me. Thanks.
 
if I was a mouthpiece maker I'd want opinions and feedback from as wide a range of players as possible - a relative beginner may encounter issues that an experienced player wouldn't notice - a pro player might automatically compensate for things that a beginner might not and wouldn't even realise that they're doing it.

I already knew how to play similar mouthpieces to these three, so I knew how to approach them before I even put the reed on,Tthe more revealing opinions may be from people who're coming to them fresh.
If you have someone who's only ever played a Yamaha 6C and give them a vintage style large chamber piece or a high baffle screamer then you find out more about how user friendly your mouthpieces really are.
Sometimes the best way to test something is to give it to someone who's not familiar with it and see how they get on.
All information is useful - I cant imagine what the team at Kanee will make of my sardonic utterances..
 
Right, first of all first impressions:
I found all the mouthpieces to be really well finished, I particularly like the fact that the mouthpiece details are all engraved on them (model, size, chamber). The engraving on the shank is a nice touch and the cardboard cylinder box has that industrial feel I like.
All the alto pieces were tested with Vandoren Jazz 2

First up was the
NY 6 Large Chamber: easy blowing mouthpiece, a beautiful warm, smooth, smoky sound. Reminded me of the West Coast school of jazz, nice and relaxed, without being stuffy. I would have preferred it in a size up, as I felt the reed was closing up as I tried pushing it in volume.

NY 8 Medium Chamber: this I enjoyed the most out of the 3. I felt the 8 facing was intimidating, I didn't measure it, but actually it felt just right and I was getting the volume and a little more bite that the NY LC, nice full sound in all registers. Easier articulation than the LC. This is the mouthpiece I kept going back to!

Studio: I have a soft spot for high baffle pieces, sometimes I like to play something that is not too demanding, you just put it on and blow. So I have kept an old Rousseau JDX6 for many years for this very reason. How did the Studio compare? Plenty of volume, no problems there, however I found it difficult to get the lower register. Nice full sound, nice up top, but when sliding down to low E/D, I found it difficult to handle. This, of course can be worked on and improve.

In summary, all three very easy blowing mouthpieces, very immediate response with distinct sounds and approaches. I thought the NY models compared well with my old (not vintage) Meyers.
I don't see why a student/novice would not be able to play the NY models in a medium close facing with good results, it would make tone production so much easier (and better!) than the Yamaha "C" (which I really don't like!) and enjoy learning the sax more.

Thank you for letting me try these, it goes to show how far fully machined mouthpieces have come and that you no longer need to spend a fortune to sound good!
Cheers, M.
 
Right, first of all first impressions:
I found all the mouthpieces to be really well finished, I particularly like the fact that the mouthpiece details are all engraved on them (model, size, chamber). The engraving on the shank is a nice touch and the cardboard cylinder box has that industrial feel I like.
All the alto pieces were tested with Vandoren Jazz 2

First up was the
NY 6 Large Chamber: easy blowing mouthpiece, a beautiful warm, smooth, smoky sound. Reminded me of the West Coast school of jazz, nice and relaxed, without being stuffy. I would have preferred it in a size up, as I felt the reed was closing up as I tried pushing it in volume.

NY 8 Medium Chamber: this I enjoyed the most out of the 3. I felt the 8 facing was intimidating, I didn't measure it, but actually it felt just right and I was getting the volume and a little more bite that the NY LC, nice full sound in all registers. Easier articulation than the LC. This is the mouthpiece I kept going back to!

Studio: I have a soft spot for high baffle pieces, sometimes I like to play something that is not too demanding, you just put it on and blow. So I have kept an old Rousseau JDX6 for many years for this very reason. How did the Studio compare? Plenty of volume, no problems there, however I found it difficult to get the lower register. Nice full sound, nice up top, but when sliding down to low E/D, I found it difficult to handle. This, of course can be worked on and improve.

In summary, all three very easy blowing mouthpieces, very immediate response with distinct sounds and approaches. I thought the NY models compared well with my old (not vintage) Meyers.
I don't see why a student/novice would not be able to play the NY models in a medium close facing with good results, it would make tone production so much easier (and better!) than the Yamaha "C" (which I really don't like!) and enjoy learning the sax more.

Thank you for letting me try these, it goes to show how far fully machined mouthpieces have come and that you no longer need to spend a fortune to sound good!
Cheers, M.
Thank you very much for the review, I am finding all the different opinions very interesting. I hope you didn't feel rushed to pass the MPCs on.

Keep Blowin'
Russ
 
Ok, my turn to review these.

Experience: Amateur, 6 years and too many mouthpieces and probably too many horns in that short period.

Although I play all four variants of the saxophone family, I tend to focus on one for several months, playing the others far less often in that period. I'm currently focussing on tenor, so I had to adapt back to alto in order to properly taste these.

That's one of the reasons I invited some friends over to try them too. They are both alto and tenor players, even if they tend to play more conservative mouthpieces; The French "Conservatoire", official music schools, are generally more classical music oriented and the teachers have been trained there, so it doesn't encourage change, if you follow my drift!

Anyways, they did try them and struggled! They were not properly equipped in terms of reeds. Too hard, aimed at closer tip openings, so they couldn't really appreciate the NY 8 and Studio.

Personally I didn't get along so well with the NY6. When trying mouthpieces, I tend to use the same reed on all pieces, in order to keep a constant, me being an unreliable one. I tried a few reeds, since I've not been playing the alto that much lately, and finally settled for an Alexander Superial 2,5.

I preferred the NY8. I could really use it throughout the whole range of the horn and it made sub-toning easy. Not that I'm an expert, but it's something I'm working on and curious to develop.

I also liked the Studio that my friends actually hated! I didn't. I found it really fun to play and I'm sure it has it's place in my collection. I don't have anything like it. After trying these, I suggested a few from my assortment to my altoist friend and he was more interest by my Meyer G and Berg Larsen 90/2/SMS. I played the BL again this morning and I still like the Studio for its own personality. Bright, but quite elegant.

So, my conclusion is that I will ,most likely add those two to my alto shelf. I will probably play the NY8 frequently, then pick the Studio when I need to be more piercing!
 
Ok, my turn to review these.

Experience: Amateur, 6 years and too many mouthpieces and probably too many horns in that short period.

Although I play all four variants of the saxophone family, I tend to focus on one for several months, playing the others far less often in that period. I'm currently focussing on tenor, so I had to adapt back to alto in order to properly taste these.

That's one of the reasons I invited some friends over to try them too. They are both alto and tenor players, even if they tend to play more conservative mouthpieces; The French "Conservatoire", official music schools, are generally more classical music oriented and the teachers have been trained there, so it doesn't encourage change, if you follow my drift!

Anyways, they did try them and struggled! They were not properly equipped in terms of reeds. Too hard, aimed at closer tip openings, so they couldn't really appreciate the NY 8 and Studio.

Personally I didn't get along so well with the NY6. When trying mouthpieces, I tend to use the same reed on all pieces, in order to keep a constant, me being an unreliable one. I tried a few reeds, since I've not been playing the alto that much lately, and finally settled for an Alexander Superial 2,5.

I preferred the NY8. I could really use it throughout the whole range of the horn and it made sub-toning easy. Not that I'm an expert, but it's something I'm working on and curious to develop.

I also liked the Studio that my friends actually hated! I didn't. I found it really fun to play and I'm sure it has it's place in my collection. I don't have anything like it. After trying these, I suggested a few from my assortment to my altoist friend and he was more interest by my Meyer G and Berg Larsen 90/2/SMS. I played the BL again this morning and I still like the Studio for its own personality. Bright, but quite elegant.
Thanks for the review, it is very much aprreciated .The Studio is a popular Mouthpiece in France,
So, my conclusion is that I will ,most likely add those two to my alto shelf. I will probably play the NY8 frequently, then pick the Studio when I need to be more piercing!

When you are ready to add them to your collection let me know,
Tenor Mouthpieces. are £88.50,
Alto Mouthpieces are £79.50
Free postage in the U.K, postage to France will be no more than £9.50
For every Mouthpiece sold here I will donate £5 to the Café
Anyone interested please PC me
 

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