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John Dankworth, Jimmy Hastings, Alan Barnes et al.

sassysax

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Yesterday I went to Wavendon to The Stables 'Music in the Garden' event. It featured various brass and sax players, particularly John Dankworth and Alan Barnes, but also one of my favourites, Jimmy Hastings. They were admirably backed up by Dave Newton (piano), Andy Cleyndert (bass) and Steve Brown (drums).

It felt like a real privelege to see John Dankworth - a living legend in British music - still playing, albeit a little hesitantly, at the age of 81. Alan Barnes was, as usual, amazing (and hilarious in his compering). Jimmy Hastings, a fine player in his own right, will always impress me purely for having played with the seminal 1970s Canterbury bands: Caravan, Hatfield and the North, and Soft Machine, as well as (in more recent years) Radiohead and, of course, Humphrey Lyttleton's band.

What was interesting though (and at risk of going off topic), was that there were hardly any people there under the age of 60. There are now more opportunities than ever for young people to play, and study, jazz up to degree level if they wish - and there seem to be plenty of takers - but why aren't they at these gigs? It was hardly expensive at ?11 and ?12 for each gig featuring two hours of quality jazz. There could be a marketing factor here, ie. the volunteers at The Stables (those who were visible at least) were all in the retirement age group themselves, so perhaps don't understand how to target a younger audience. I really don't know for certain, but there seems to be a missing link here somewhere and it's a bit of a worry in terms of the future of jazz audiences.

Also, in school and college bands, there are usually at least as many female sax players as males. So why are there so few professional female players (none at this particular event featuring 11 musicians - across the age range - in total)?
 
hello

We were there too - and we are definately under the age of 60 - and our boys had a great time and they are 9 and 11!! We went to the morning and afternoon sessions on the Saturday and went back for more yesterday - the big band. There were more children there yesterday.

The Stables is host to the youth music camps for the next few weeks so that should bring in some more interest.

Glad you enjoyed it - and maybe see you there next year?
Helen
 
One of the re-assuring things about going to events at The Stables (and we go to 4-5 a year) is that I feel quite young when I look at the average audience. I feel positively youthful when I see the staff, who all seem to be on evening release from the local care home! We went to see Beth Rowley there a few weeks ago, and even a young up-and-coming star like her drew an audience (and a very appreciative one, it must be said) with an average age around 50. It's just one of those venues I think - probably just not "edgy" enough for a really young clientele.
 
Hi Helen

Yes, my daughter (14) was there too, and I'm still quite a few years off 60 myself! In fact, my daughter is also going to one of this summer's teenage music camps. I think I spotted your family as I noted the only other children that I saw that day.

We would certainly go to The Stables more often if it was nearer home. On this occasion we were meeting some of my family who live in the area and go there frequently.

Although I'm more of a soul/funk/fusion type, I still wonder about what will happen when the current older generation of jazz audiences shuffle off. Perhaps the more straight-ahead styles of jazz will, too. 🙁

Cheers
Sassy
 
and my in laws are part of the teaching team for the youth camps - well over 60 and camping there for a week.
Amazing couple John and Cleo - the Stables legacy is amazing - gets me thinking about my legacy...
hey ho
 
We went on Saturday and we noticed that the audience was actually slightly younger on average than the audiences at our usual venues in Bucks, but I also worry about the future of that kind of jazz. I think there are plenty of young players playing what they call jazz, but it's a different kind of music. It's probably always been so.

What a great venue! We hadn't been there before, but will definitely go again.
 

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