Playing the saxophone Jazz Snobs...

[Pete Thomas]

Japanese animé tunes. Quelle horreur !

I didn't even know there was such a thing. I just thought Anime was a cartoon version of kiddie porn.

 

[Grumps]

I didn't even know there was such a thing. I just thought Anime was a cartoon version of kiddie porn.

Well, let's hope this one doesn't need to branch off to it's own thread...

 

[Targa]

Just to be on the safe side I won’t be going to google to find out what anime is.

 

[mark_addy]

Just to be on the safe side I won’t be going to google to find out what anime is.

You could Google it on someone else's PC at work, I guess... 🙂

(There's a wikipedia page - I think you're safe enough).

 

[Pete Thomas]

You could Google it on someone else's PC at work, I guess... 🙂

(There's a wikipedia page - I think you're safe enough).

Beware people have been convicted for CSAM downloading the dodgier stuff thinking it’s ok because it’s just cartoons.

 

[Zasterz]

I just thought Anime was a cartoon version of kiddie porn.

Just to be on the safe side I won’t be going to google to find out what anime is.

Beware people have been convicted for CSAM downloading the dodgier stuff thinking it’s ok because it’s just cartoons.

Uhhh WHAT? 😧

Hope you’re not being serious. Anime is just a style of Japanese animation. It’s an artform with a long history and huge following.

View: https://youtu.be/ShzmzcJM7QI?si=nNdSSrcTdHdZ5bfx

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/m5te6u/top_100_most_acclaimed_anime_series_of_all_time/

EDIT: Just realized you’re probably thinking of Hentai not Anime.

 

[Targa]

You could Google it on someone else's PC at work, I guess... 🙂

(There's a wikipedia page - I think you're safe enough).

Work?
I think I used to do that over thirty years ago, at least someone is paying me a pension for something.

 

[Pete Thomas]

EDIT: Just realized you’re probably thinking of Hentai not Anime.

Probably

Edit: yes just checked, the conviction was for Hentai. I get confused easily.

 

[dexdex]

Animé composers are doing a great job, and their music is very familiar among millennials. I try to convince some of my contemporaries to play such tunes instead of only good old jazz school stuff. No success so far. I mostly play such songs at 1 man gigs, over karaoke tracks.
My daughters, born around the 90s, have been instrumental in my discovery of that specific universe.
Playing One Piece We Are at my last graduation ceremony before retirement, I had part of the audience, my students, singing the lyrics in Japanese with me. Unplanned, unexpected. Amazing. Never had such a connection to the audience with Ornithology or even Petite Fleur.

View: https://youtu.be/YoeP9w5UIlg?si=PFJ7eAe1r5_UcdGT

 

[pablop]

Ill spin the jazz snob moniker to the players that can play all the right notes, all the changes, at incredible speed and yet make me feel nothing through the wizardy....back home we associated that group to the fusion snobs who would play music like if it was gymnastics.
To me feeling and phrasing will always outshine show-off technique...

On the anime soundtrack topic no one can miss Cowboy Bebop's Yoko Kanno and Seatbelts work, grooves like hell

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZl7N8sXyEo&list=RDGZl7N8sXyEo&start_radio=1

 

[Grumps]

There's actually a market for anime music themes. Concerts, shows, conventions... all of that. Like its own niche.

 

[JayeNM]

Don’t even mention playing smooth jazz or Japanese animé tunes. Quelle horreur !

Oh, no indeed...you aren't pushing ANYONE'S BUTTONS with those.....

 

[progger]

A couple of my college composition students over the past few years have been really into the music of Joe Hisaishi, who has been Miyazaki's go-to composer for a long time. When they bring in a piece to transcribe and analyze, it's really a joy, he writes great film music. ("Howl's Moving Castle" is a frequent one, I still haven't seen it and I really need to...)

A lot of my favorite modern compositions are happening in Japanese games. The soundtracks to some recent Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Castlevania, and Zelda games are frankly top-tier, really brilliant stuff, often conceptually similar to some of the better anime films and soundtracks.

 

[lydian]

Not sure we should be using the word literally in this context.

But was he? He was certainly an innovator back then but how much of that accolade is subjective?

Getting back on topic, Bird himself agreed with you. I read in Stanley Crouch's Kansas City Lightning that he didn't think what he was doing was all that different from what came before him, and was frankly puzzled by all the fuss. However unaware he was, he was clearly taking a brand new approach harmonically and rhythmically that had never been heard before. I absolutely agree he was an American Mozart in terms of his genius. But as long as we're making analogies, I'd say Bird is to Lester Young as Einstein is to Newton.

"Literally" has come to be an intensifier and a synonym for figuratively.

Definition of LITERALLY

in a literal sense or manner: such as; in a way that uses the ordinary or primary meaning of a term or expression; —used to emphasize the truth and accuracy of a statement or description… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[mark_addy]

A couple of my college composition students over the past few years have been really into the music of Joe Hisaishi, who has been Miyazaki's go-to composer for a long time. When they bring in a piece to transcribe and analyze, it's really a joy, he writes great film music. ("Howl's Moving Castle" is a frequent one, I still haven't seen it and I really need to...)

My eldest got me into that - it's a good (kids) film. 'Spirited Away' was harder going for this culturally-English old fella 🙂. There's a bloke on youtube who makes models based on anime ideas out of plastic rubbish - I think the channel is called Studson Studio. His take on a physical Howl's Moving Castle' is quite a thing, and often funny - your students might have seen it, if they are into all that.

 

[Targa]

For Japanese films I’ll stick with Kurosawa.

 

[Dr G]

Yes, you know who you are. Playing jazz ain't meant to be as dull as you.

Click bait. Pejorative performative click bait.

I would say “Hey, we’re all musicians here”, but we know that’s a lie too.

Ain’t it great throwing labels on people just so you can mock them?

Not a fan. (Yes, I am aware that the original post was from 2007, and I don’t appreciate it any more now.)

 

[Dr G]

Beware people have been convicted for CSAM downloading the dodgier stuff thinking it’s ok because it’s just cartoons.

And why does anime persist in a thread about jazz snobs? Not that I care.

 

[JayeNM]

And why does anime persist in a thread about jazz snobs? Not that I care.

Because that's what happens when one revives an19-y.o. thread perhaps....

 

[Zasterz]

And why does anime persist in a thread about jazz snobs? Not that I care.

It’s quite simple- because normal conversation happens. One person says something about anime music then another person says “anime- isn’t that porn?” then another person answers “no you’re thinking of something else”. It’s just totally normal, run-of-the-mill human behavior to shoot the sh*t like this. Relieves tension, hurts no one. Lots of stuff to worry about in this world but this ain’t one of em.