Sheet Music i'm a believer, Key and Chords

[turf3]

It was the F chord that fooooled me huh. Note C where did the G come from flattened 7th??

Huh?

 

[Dr G]

It was the F chord that fooooled me huh. Note C where did the G come from flattened 7th??

Here's a whole book devoted to the flattened.

 

[stitch]

we all learn..

Unless it's learning to read music apparently ...

 

[eb424]

Unless it's learning to read music apparently ...

For some... is there any point

 

[Pete Thomas]

For some... is there any point

No. We’ve discussed this before. If you can play by ear or memory and don’t need to read then there is no point, unless it’s to broaden your horizons.

This is getting off topic, best to discuss here:

Playing the saxophone - Learn to play by ear or by reading music

Several people have expressed an interest in a thread on playing by ear and, after showing off, it would appear that this is my penance! I'm just kidding, actually I'm quite keen to help out any musicians who struggle. This is just my take on the subject, I'm hoping that others will offer...

cafesaxophone.com

 

[Dr G]

For some... is there any point

Yes. If it helps you to learn a tune or transcribe the notes of a tune, it is very useful.

In this context, you could have listened to the tune, transcribed it to your note book, and memorized it along the way.

 

[eb424]

Yes. If it helps you to learn a tune or transcribe the notes of a tune, it is very useful.

Hi I have had a few lessons can transpose and read notes. I am only ever going to be someone who plays in the caravan for fun. I can seriously understand the value, and if I was younger with a future I would jump on lessons. I play to backing tracks and can usually manage, sometimes I get thrown a curveball. With this one it was the notes C and G not in the key sig but in the outro and instrumental. Is it really worth investing in lessons without knowing what I need and for what purpose....

 

[Ivan]

It's good Eddie! With your spirit and forza it can't go wrong. Trust your own ears first. Maybe find out what to do with the high tone you play. Practice to honk the high E or ..... . What fingers/keys do you use for E3? I use front F + A + G + octave key.

Bravi

You're going to knock 'em dead

 

[stitch]

I am only ever going to be someone who plays in the caravan for fun.

... and Care Homes ... and a wedding ...

Is it really worth investing in lessons without knowing what I need and for what purpose....

Surely you could teach yourself to read music? Lessons not necessary.
Not meaning to pull your chain, but over the years you've resisted the advice of most here to learn the dots. You seem willing to put the effort in to try gear and recording technology, but not to do something will will almost certainly be of great benefit.
Don't mean to be harsh, just my take.

 

[Ivan]

...if I was younger with a future...

... Oh come, Eduardo

If you're anticipating a cup of tea tomorrow morning, you can see a future

 

[cappers]

.. and if I was younger with a future I would jump on lessons.

You're being ageist matey 😉 I'm 72 and started over a year ago, age isn't a barrier. Don't think about the future, enjoy now! You can teach yourself to read in a few months, an hour a day.

 

[pgboyd]

I’m 66 and started learning sax in January. I might have another 30 years or 30 minutes. Use the time you have doing what you enjoy.

 

[Dr G]

Hi I have had a few lessons can transpose and read notes. I am only ever going to be someone who plays in the caravan for fun. I can seriously understand the value, and if I was younger with a future I would jump on lessons. I play to backing tracks and can usually manage, sometimes I get thrown a curveball. With this one it was the notes C and G not in the key sig but in the outro and instrumental. Is it really worth investing in lessons without knowing what I need and for what purpose....

What you need? For what purpose?

See a G, play a G. That’s a start. Pick a note. Any note. No theory - just noticing a relationship between what you see and what you play. You can do this.

 

[eb424]

... and Care Homes ... and a wedding ...


Surely you could teach yourself to read music? Lessons not necessary.
Not meaning to pull your chain, but over the years you've resisted the advice of most here to learn the dots. You seem willing to put the effort in to try gear and recording technology, but not to do something will will almost certainly be of great benefit.
Don't mean to be harsh, just my take.

Hey it's not harsh and I appreciate the honesty. I have serious limitations, seeing the rhythm from the dots. I'm not resistant to learn i ask questions on here and wouldn't ignore what i'm told. I appreciate people sharing their experience and time, it's great and precious. I can also understand members frustration. I dont play from dots, but know notes, names, duration, key sigs, circle of fiths at a basic level. I bought the sheet music in "G" transposed the main chorus and verse to "A" for practice. I always buy the dots in the track key and transpose. I was at a loss with the instrumental. Thankfully @sax panther helped with this.Seeing what was written out for the 8 bar instrumental i'm at a loss seeing how its played in time. The sub division ( counting) I need to learn. I think tho it short the instrumental was hard for me. It's quite fast. I recognised that there were notes in it "C" and "G" that aren't in the key sig. This inadvertently left me assuming that there was a key change, and starting the thread. Guess what ive learn't is chords are more relevant than the key sig..and i need to work on sub division.

 

[thomsax]

I like to read and take part of different ways to thrive with the saxophone. The more they merrier/interesting. Most saxplayers are playing for plesure. We don't have any ambition to take paid gigs or to sit in a saxsection of a Big Band. The reason I started to play the sax was that I wanted to do something during the dark winter at the countryside of south Sweden. To play football was the thing to me. So I started to play the sax on my own with some help from my father and the guy in the music shop where we bought my sax. We have all different approach to the sax. When I said I'm self-taught I often hear ; "....you called a friend in USA for advice, that's a lesson .... ". Self-taught persons are often overlooked. I like to be overlooked.

I often wonder if a internet forum is the right place for me? A self-taught Rock & Roll Saxophone enthusiast on a inter net forum ... is to beg for problem.

Of course, it's the wrong place for me. So I say "Good Bye" with help from The Blasters and fine saxplayers like Lee Allen and Steve Berlin.

View: https://youtu.be/6y4EjAB_0FI?si=_vgKdGLbHXtR7vST

 

[eb424]

I like to read and take part of different ways to thrive with the saxophone. The more they merrier/interesting. Most saxplayers are playing for plesure. We don't have any ambition to take paid gigs or to sit in a saxsection of a Big Band. The reason I started to play the sax was that I wanted to do something during the dark winter at the countryside of south Sweden. To play football was the thing to me. So I started to play the sax on my own with some help from my father and the guy in the music shop where we bought my sax. We have all different approach to the sax. When I said I'm self-taught I often hear ; "....you called a friend in USA for advice, that's a lesson .... ". Self-taught persons are often overlooked. I like to be overlooked.

I often wonder if a internet forum is the right place for me? A self-taught Rock & Roll Saxophone enthusiast on a inter net forum ... is to beg for problem.

Of course, it's the wrong place for me. So I say "Good Bye" with help from The Blasters and fine saxplayers like Lee Allen and Steve Berlin.

View: https://youtu.be/6y4EjAB_0FI?si=_vgKdGLbHXtR7vST

Nice video...Whats up...

 

[mizmar]

A self-taught Rock & Roll Saxophone enthusiast on a inter net forum ... is to beg for problem.

I've not seen anyone give you a hard time for your approach... Indeed most people who do react to your contributions seem appreciative to me.

So I say "Good Bye" with

Not for long, i hope.

 

[Pete Thomas]

A self-taught Rock & Roll Saxophone enthusiast on a inter net forum ... is to beg for problem.

Of course, it's the wrong place for me. So I say "Good Bye"

But here we are on page 5 post 98 of a thread created by a self taught enthusiast asking a question and receiving plenty of advice on theory, playing and critiques on a recorded example. All from players ranging from almost absolute beginner to professional. We welcome all saxophone players no matter the level of ability or experience. It's what the cafe is about.

 

[cappers]

I often wonder if a internet forum is the right place for me? A self-taught Rock & Roll Saxophone enthusiast on a inter net forum ... is to beg for problem.

Of course, it's the wrong place for me. So I say "Good Bye" with help from The Blasters and fine saxplayers like Lee Allen and Steve Berlin.

@thomsax I hope this is a mistake or something lost in translation!

You are a self-taught R&R saxophonist and should be congratulated for being so. Your perspective, input and comments are appreciated. Different approaches, goals and ambitions but whatever style you make music and that's what counts.
So please.......

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDoCBw3UhSw

 

[eb424]

Off topic [email protected] have been one of the most motivating contributors to my often pain in the ass threads...I have difficulty explaing myself theoretically and can completely understand the frustration I cause to those members who are "properly" trained. I wish I was..but..you see past the theory see my motivation, enthuisasm, willingness to learn, from a different perspective. Everyone here has been soooo suportive of me, tolerant springs to mind, in a good way mostly..You offer a different view, self taught even with phone calls, lol, your own experiences, honesty, openess, guidance is as unique as everyone heres and i genuinely thank you all. Please DON'T deny those who maybe a few years behind me the uniqueness you have given me..Hope all is well aside.