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Pete Effamy

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The tenor isn't a bigger alto. It's similar but completely different. It may take a lifetime to get the tone you want from a tenor. Bear in mind though that they don't sound the same behind the mouthpiece as they do in front. Practice cures most problems. You have to earn your tone. You cannot buy it.

My own experience was...Clarinet no problem Add alto no problem. Add Baritone no problem. Add tenor oh dear squawk, squeak, poor intonation and poor tone. Eventually improving. Add soprano... shouldn't have bothered...stupid thing...house is full of dogs and bats.
Everyone I know has a problem with doubling (trebling etc etc). I grew up on clarinet and have always found the soprano a completely natural follow-on - same-ish size, straight, same pitch. Alto is the horn I've been on most in jazz combos and then I got a Rock gig and needed a tenor. Like Colin, I haven't found this as natural as the others. It certainly isn't a bigger alto.

Many gravitate from alto to tenor, but few continue to specialise on both. Who has heard Sanborn on tenor, or Brecker on alto (to name but two)? Brandon Fields has played more tenor recently, like Andy Snitzer, but he also sounds great on baritone, and soprano. I think he comes from the old school of being a woodwind player though, like Tom Scott (check his Joni Mitchell stuff in the early 70's) and plays a lot for film covering most of the axes, like Sal Lozano also.
I can leave all axes for a while and get them back pretty fast - but not tenor. The only way to be competent on more than one horn is to alternate them in practice. It takes a certain approach though, to be happy to put a horn down when you are not happy with it and go at another.
 
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Hi Colin the Bear I think ive finnally sussed it... The series V11 sounds along the tone of a mark v1 whereas im looking for the tone of a yamaha yts82z can a mouthpiece or reed make tht difference... Obviously im nowhere near good enough nor can i afford the Yam.. lol
 
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Hi Zugzwnang, dont know what happaned to the Hanson, Alastair didnt seem all that bothered which is unlike him TBF. I went down to Dorset yesterday andpicked up a Yamaha 32 purple logo which was a bargain so i guess ill start all the reed and mouthpiece mullarkey again LOL. With regards to the Hanson the build quality and look of it is great but it didnt seem to sound right. I wanted to give it a fair try being fairly new to the tenor...before buying the Yam if it looked and played ok. While playing the hanson something in it seemed to pop, (i had just cleaned the pads) and it seems to have sprung into life.... Sounds a completely different beast.... hmm what to do with a Yam 32 may be my next post..
 
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Oiii that's not nice keep blowing true but not nice... LOL...am I the only one that's been through the mpcs and reed malarkey with a new horn...???
 

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When I got my first horn many years ago, I used the mouthpiece that came with it for years. I was given a Berg Larsen which I used until it was stolen, can't remember what I got next but I would have used it for years. I know it's different now, its very easy to get new gear within a couple of days, as for Reeds I started with Rico Royals and stuck with them for donkeys years.
 
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Lol... I think I've just bought wrong...I've only had 4 safes and bought mouthpieces on-line.. defo not the way to go would be my advise to many variations.. size reed material etc.. in future I would buy from a good shop.. talking of which I need some mpc protectors.. I seem to have used them all...hmm
 

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Oiii that's not nice keep blowing true but not nice... LOL...am I the only one that's been through the mpcs and reed malarkey with a new horn...???
My ex horns are listed below but not my mouthpieces - probably embarrassing....

Funniest thing I’ve seen is a mate of mine (sometimes deps on Strictly) that plays on a Guardala. Tried two Theo Wanne ‘pieces that were a close run thing as to which to go for. Opted for A. Next week, he’d gone back and opted for B. Two weeks later (and £1200 lighter) I noticed the Guardala stuck on the end again...
 
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eb424

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sometimes the one youve got is best for you huh... think i may have started to quick everythig bought online apart from the new 32.. not a good thing..
 

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think i have keep blowing kanee studio and Hansons series v111 tenor seems to work for me xx
:clapping: There you go! Blow your excellent words up poster size and stick somewhere you’ll see it any time you temporarily fall out of love with your set up.
 
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