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<blockquote data-quote="turf3" data-source="post: 643096" data-attributes="member: 8105"><p>Your pivot screws look like quality parts, well made. Mine look very poorly made. There's a lot of variation amongst them, the length of the pin, the way one of them the threads aren't even up to the underside of the screw head, the pins look almost like they were cut off with end nippers.</p><p></p><p>If I didn't know better I'd assume some kind of aftermarket pivot screws made by Joe Schmo in his back garden shed; but I bought these two horns almost 20 years apart, one in Texas and one in Florida.</p><p></p><p>It's also an interesting speculation when the Holton pivot screws replaced the Couturier pointy ones. Actually, the COLLEGIATE mechanism isn't particularly sloppy. I wonder if they already had the keys made up and just drilled out the ends. There aren't really all that many pivot screws. Even quite long keys have hinge rods on this horn.</p><p></p><p>The drummer I bought the COLLEGIATE from said that the sax player in a band he used to be in, would load the horn with a Roman candle and shoot it out at the audience while playing. I guess the finish might have been kinda rough, before Buffy McBuff-Face the Lacquer Slayer got hold of the horn.</p><p></p><p>As for the case, I'm gonna declare it an aftermarket replacement and not think any more about it. (There is no brand indication on it of any sort, nor brad holes or a faded rectangle where one might once have been.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="turf3, post: 643096, member: 8105"] Your pivot screws look like quality parts, well made. Mine look very poorly made. There's a lot of variation amongst them, the length of the pin, the way one of them the threads aren't even up to the underside of the screw head, the pins look almost like they were cut off with end nippers. If I didn't know better I'd assume some kind of aftermarket pivot screws made by Joe Schmo in his back garden shed; but I bought these two horns almost 20 years apart, one in Texas and one in Florida. It's also an interesting speculation when the Holton pivot screws replaced the Couturier pointy ones. Actually, the COLLEGIATE mechanism isn't particularly sloppy. I wonder if they already had the keys made up and just drilled out the ends. There aren't really all that many pivot screws. Even quite long keys have hinge rods on this horn. The drummer I bought the COLLEGIATE from said that the sax player in a band he used to be in, would load the horn with a Roman candle and shoot it out at the audience while playing. I guess the finish might have been kinda rough, before Buffy McBuff-Face the Lacquer Slayer got hold of the horn. As for the case, I'm gonna declare it an aftermarket replacement and not think any more about it. (There is no brand indication on it of any sort, nor brad holes or a faded rectangle where one might once have been.) [/QUOTE]
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