Saxophones C Melody Saxophones

[jcn664]

Sorry, it's still not clear in English. Please try including the original in written French.


Désolé, ce n'est toujours pas clair en anglais. Veuillez essayer d'inclure le texte original en français.

Rhys

I might be interested one day
it all depends on the price you’d sell it for.

For a sax like this, the only interested parties who would truly care for it and enjoy it the way you’d like based on what you’ve said

They're Probably are only collectors/players,
collector-player-repairers, or simply true enthusiasts.

People like @PigSquealer, myself, and many others would be the ideal buyers to ensure a good life for this exceptionally rare horn.

It might sound a bit presumptuous to put it that way
I don't know but I believe that only enthusiasts, collectors, and repairers (or the "winning combo" of someone who is all three) could truly appreciate the quality and rarity of this sax, considering both its build quality and its history—including the legend surrounding the "20-22" models and its mythical scarcity.

After that, it's Just my opinion, but it would be sad and not good thing if you sell at not musicien, and not enthousiaste who buy the horn just for business for exemple,

If you sell it, please choose the new proprietary who really played it, and love it.

That is just my personnal opinion,

 

[jcn664]

Sorry, it's still not clear in English. Please try including the original in written French.


Désolé, ce n'est toujours pas clair en anglais. Veuillez essayer d'inclure le texte original en français.

Rhys

For exemple, my Rampone and cazzani c melody, It had been thrown out at a waste collection center because it was unsellable and slated for destruction; I rescued this sax from the dump so it wouldn't get smashed to bits.

You shouldn't sell to people who are only interested in resale potential and who they won't care about tossing it in the trash if it turns out to be unsellable.

Your C melody are great rarity and great horn, great historic pièce of french manufacture (beaugnier),

It deserves to live a good life and be played with, all while being well cared for whether in your collection or with someone who truly appreciates it.

It's my personal opinion.

 

[jcn664]

Why c melody are hated, i love this, okay it's not perfect but all sax are not perfect and if it's for tuning, lol soprano and sopranino are not really perfect tune too

 

[turf3]

I very much doubt that a good C mel would be inherently out of tune, provided it's played with an appropriate mouthpiece . Back in the 20s, the American manufacturers were making sopranos altos C melodies and tenors to pretty much a common standard ( baritone and bass always lag behind).

 

[jcn664]

I very much doubt that a good C mel would be inherently out of tune, provided it's played with an appropriate mouthpiece . Back in the 20s, the American manufacturers were making sopranos altos C melodies and tenors to pretty much a common standard ( baritone and bass always lag behind).

I'm agree but t'it's fact c melody don't play very good tune now in globally,

Not because it's made inherently out of tune, but because they're not plenty accessories and we just an adaptated,

Adaptation is cool but not optimisation too different thing

You can have the original mouthpiece but it's rare to find that
You can made our custom order for c melody mouthpiece like as get a sax, syos... Etc.

But with that two problems :
The ligature, you will adaptated
The Reed you will adaptated

But that influence too the tune

The problem of intonation of c melody is majority caused by inadapted accessories.

That is my personal opinion

 

[PigSquealer]

You can have the original mouthpiece but it's rare to find that

Really ?

 

[PigSquealer]

You can made our custom order for c melody mouthpiece like as get a sax, syos... Etc.

But with that two problems :
The ligature, you will adaptated
The Reed you will adaptated

But that influence too the tune

The problem of intonation of c melody is majority caused by inadapted accessories.

Total myths.
Many are readily available and play quite well.
Most state the ligature and reed to use or you can ask.
Some players have reported back to me that large chamber modern alto mouthpieces work just fine. The ones made by Vandoren Paris, France. Seem to play well.

 

[jcn664]

Total myths.
Many are readily available and play quite well.
Most state the ligature and reed to use or you can ask.
Some players have reported back to me that large chamber modern alto mouthpieces work just fine. The ones made by Vandoren Paris, France. Seem to play well.

There is generally some confusion between what I said and the actual facts.

I’m not saying the accessories are bad or ill-suited;

C-Melody saxophones have a bad reputation, particularly regarding intonation. Many people look down on them quite a bit.

My point was that the intonation issues often found with these saxophones don't necessarily stem from the instrument itself, but can arise from problems with the accessories.

It may be that many people haven't played or tested them with good, suitable mouthpieces; and while it is possible to get mouthpieces specifically made for C-Melody,

adapting alto mouthpieces might not yield optimal results, as some mouthpieces simply may not respond well.

Ligatures and reeds can also affect intonation.

It’s not a 100% foolproof setup—

—and if you combine that with poor instrument adjustment,

it can indeed lead to a negative opinion or a bad first impression of the instrument.

But in that case, the fault lies not with the instrument, but with the player—for making a poor adaptation, choosing the wrong mouthpiece, or failing to check technical playability factors, etc.

So, no: the instrument itself isn't inherently worse than any other saxophone pitched in B-flat or E-flat.

It's my personal opinion, maybe i'm wrong

 

[PigSquealer]

There is generally some confusion between what I said and the actual facts.

I’m not saying the accessories are bad or ill-suited;

C-Melody saxophones have a bad reputation, particularly regarding intonation. Many people look down on them quite a bit.

My point was that the intonation issues often found with these saxophones don't necessarily stem from the instrument itself, but can arise from problems with the accessories.

It may be that many people haven't played or tested them with good, suitable mouthpieces; and while it is possible to get mouthpieces specifically made for C-Melody,

adapting alto mouthpieces might not yield optimal results, as some mouthpieces simply may not respond well.

Ligatures and reeds can also affect intonation.

It’s not a 100% foolproof setup—

—and if you combine that with poor instrument adjustment,

it can indeed lead to a negative opinion or a bad first impression of the instrument.

But in that case, the fault lies not with the instrument, but with the player—for making a poor adaptation, choosing the wrong mouthpiece, or failing to check technical playability factors, etc.

So, no: the instrument itself isn't inherently worse than any other saxophone pitched in B-flat or E-flat.

It's my personal opinion, maybe i'm wrong

What ever translator you used for the above post keep using it.

 

[jcn664]

Photo of beaugnier coming soon,
It's the D-days 😂😂

I pay only 350€. Let's go

 

[jcn664]

The picture of c melody beaugnier

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[Greychatter]

It took a lot of photographs but I finally produced this line drawing of the unique engraving on my ‘23 Conn C Melody.

 

[PigSquealer]

It took a lot of photographs but I finally produced this line drawing of the unique engraving on my ‘23 Conn C Melody.

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That’s a beautiful piece of art. Too bad the artist is unknown. Thanks for sharing ! That took some effort.