Saxophones Another Beaugnier

I believe Beaugnier only made stencils, or as part of an order from some distributor or music store . I don’t think they sold directly.

The ones I have seen with a Beaugnier label also have a music store name engraved on them somewhere. My alto Model 38 has “Javalier Dijon” engraved near the Beaugnier stamp. @jcn664 does your C-melody have a store name on it?
I'm pretty sure I have seen Beaugniers (on the internet, not in person) that are labeled "Beaugnier" as the brand name. I'd say this C melody is like that - I think the model is "Special Perfect". Of course if another brand name is somewhere else, I'll be wrong, but with "Special Perfect" engraved real big and then E. Beaugnier" right below it, it sure looks to ME like that is the complete brand and model designation.

So, yes, almost always made FOR someone else, but not 100% of the time.
 
Yes, my Beaugnier model 38 alto has the same "E. Beaugnier" label as that C Melody. Engraved to the right and below it is the name "Javalier, Dijon", obviously engraved by hand after the fact. That's a well-known music store. I have seen other horns with the same Beaugnier label, but they also have a second name added somewhere else.

The point is, I think that Beaugnier made saxophones mostly in response to orders, rather than manufacturing them and then trying to sell them.
 
Yes, my Beaugnier model 38 alto has the same "E. Beaugnier" label as that C Melody. Engraved to the right and below it is the name "Javalier, Dijon", obviously engraved by hand after the fact. That's a well-known music store. I have seen other horns with the same Beaugnier label, but they also have a second name added somewhere else.

The point is, I think that Beaugnier made saxophones mostly in response to orders, rather than manufacturing them and then trying to sell them.
If this was their primary business model (and I agree with you that it certainly appears that way, since "Beaugnier" branded horns are rare and surely a small fraction of their production) - it still leaves unanswered the question - who the HECK thought in - oh, say, 1955 - that a batch of C melody saxophones was a good thing to spend money on?
 
If this was their primary business model (and I agree with you that it certainly appears that way, since "Beaugnier" branded horns are rare and surely a small fraction of their production) - it still leaves unanswered the question - who the HECK thought in - oh, say, 1955 - that a batch of C melody saxophones was a good thing to spend money on?
Same thinking,

But i'm not surprise, because if you're american,

Asking the same question for conn with f mezzo and conn ô sax
Asking buescher for straight alto and tipped bell
Asking Lyons and healy for perfect curved
Asking King for saxello

I my opinion, beaugnier try one thing and recreate a tendance to be have new customer and new business but the reality is failed

And create new market is for majority of time a failed
We can see with many exemple that i listed for exemple.
 
@Stephen Howard has an interesting article on the 1959 Selmer Mark VI alto. I have not referenced it since it will show up in a search or simply going to his site. It is listed in his left column menu. (Don't want to load up his site with unnecessary traffic. Bandwidth costs good money.)

He gives an interesting take from a technician's point of view. Mentions in some instances the Selmer Balanced Action was better. The VI is still well loved, a solid workhorse especially after servicing to fix its faults and shortcomings. Like many saxes, a simple change in mouthpiece can produced the desired characteristics.

Perhaps the best concluding statement is Stephen's, "Bear in mind too that there's some truth in the modern-day saying "No-one sells a good Selmer". I mean, if you had one, would you??"

I only have experience with a limited amount of makes and models of saxophones, so cannot comment except for those I have.

My 1952ish ("ish" because there are gaps in serial number records and mine is between two years) Le Blanc Model 37 Beaugnier Vito low-Bb bari, after I restored it, plays beautifully in tune and it is very easy to play in the altissimo register. It lacks the "France" stamp near its serial number, so I gather the possibility that then as a factory under the LeBlanc Corporation, parts or partial assembly and parts were shipped off to Kenosha, Wisconsin? and final assembly done there.

It was a joy to play as my last experience with a bari sax was in the latter 1980's, when I played a King low Bb bari sax for the 300th Army Band, Bell, CA. I did a few minor repairs to restore it to playing condition. It played very well in tune. I could play it mildly or put out that fat bari sound in its lower register.

I bought the 37 as an eBay project sax in 2010 for $315 total. Taught me a lot about adjustments and dent work. It was a former high school loaner instrument that saw its better days with many repairs.

Last year I was so glad to obtain a very low usage 1952 Le Blanc Model 37 Beaugnier Vito alto saxophone. It had a high serial number, gather probably continued production into early 1960's. Tarpley Music replaced 5 pads plus new neck cork and a few other tweaks. It is a wide body sax, used a tenor end plug to protect the neck octave key mechanism. Bell rim diameter is that of a modern tenor sax. Buy + servicing + new case about $550.

It has the earlier 1940's left pinky table like my bari. Properly adjusted these play like professional model saxes. For a pensioner should do me well until I attain my 'last call'.
 
@Stephen Howard has an interesting article on the 1959 Selmer Mark VI alto. I have not referenced it since it will show up in a search or simply going to his site. It is listed in his left column menu. (Don't want to load up his site with unnecessary traffic. Bandwidth costs good money.)

He gives an interesting take from a technician's point of view. Mentions in some instances the Selmer Balanced Action was better. The VI is still well loved, a solid workhorse especially after servicing to fix its faults and shortcomings. Like many saxes, a simple change in mouthpiece can produced the desired characteristics.

Perhaps the best concluding statement is Stephen's, "Bear in mind too that there's some truth in the modern-day saying "No-one sells a good Selmer". I mean, if you had one, would you??"

I only have experience with a limited amount of makes and models of saxophones, so cannot comment except for those I have.

My 1952ish ("ish" because there are gaps in serial number records and mine is between two years) Le Blanc Model 37 Beaugnier Vito low-Bb bari, after I restored it, plays beautifully in tune and it is very easy to play in the altissimo register. It lacks the "France" stamp near its serial number, so I gather the possibility that then as a factory under the LeBlanc Corporation, parts or partial assembly and parts were shipped off to Kenosha, Wisconsin? and final assembly done there.

It was a joy to play as my last experience with a bari sax was in the latter 1980's, when I played a King low Bb bari sax for the 300th Army Band, Bell, CA. I did a few minor repairs to restore it to playing condition. It played very well in tune. I could play it mildly or put out that fat bari sound in its lower register.

I bought the 37 as an eBay project sax in 2010 for $315 total. Taught me a lot about adjustments and dent work. It was a former high school loaner instrument that saw its better days with many repairs.

Last year I was so glad to obtain a very low usage 1952 Le Blanc Model 37 Beaugnier Vito alto saxophone. It had a high serial number, gather probably continued production into early 1960's. Tarpley Music replaced 5 pads plus new neck cork and a few other tweaks. It is a wide body sax, used a tenor end plug to protect the neck octave key mechanism. Bell rim diameter is that of a modern tenor sax. Buy + servicing + new case about $550.

It has the earlier 1940's left pinky table like my bari. Properly adjusted these play like professional model saxes. For a pensioner should do me well until I attain my 'last call'.
I’ ve just bought an E Beaugnier Alto sax from ebay - it’s silver plated and incredibly heavy - it is not a stencil and has the initials EB on the sails of the mast on its sailing ship logo which is the Parisian water merchants logo. The serial number is 15528 and was made “near” Paris France - it has a unique adjustable G# key and mother of pearl “buttons” on the key guards. From my research I believe it is a “Perfect” model from the late 1950s-early 60s BUT my research is relying on searching the internet and an AI response so how accurate that is I expect is debatable BUT what is clear is that it is not a stencil horn. It plays “to a fashion” so needs a service BUT I’m very happy to own such a rare beast! 🤠🎷😎 Would be interested to hear from les lumieres if they have any verifiable info they can impart 🙏🏻
 
I’ ve just bought an E Beaugnier Alto sax from ebay - it’s silver plated and incredibly heavy - it is not a stencil and has the initials EB on the sails of the mast on its sailing ship logo which is the Parisian water merchants logo. The serial number is 15528 and was made “near” Paris France - it has a unique adjustable G# key and mother of pearl “buttons” on the key guards. From my research I believe it is a “Perfect” model from the late 1950s-early 60s BUT my research is relying on searching the internet and an AI response so how accurate that is I expect is debatable BUT what is clear is that it is not a stencil horn. It plays “to a fashion” so needs a service BUT I’m very happy to own such a rare beast! 🤠🎷😎 Would be interested to hear from les lumieres if they have any verifiable info they can impart 🙏🏻
Can you post some pictures? I have two Beaugnier altos - a Model 37 Vito, and a Model 38 E. Beaugnier in silver plate. Both sound great, but the Model 38 is truly an excellent horn. And a real beauty. Beaugnier were known for their heavy duty silver plate.

There is some engraving on the 38 for a store in Dijon (Javalier, they are still in business). I’m not sure if it came from the factory that way, or if the store added it.

Congratulations on your purchase. After a service it should play great!
 
That’s surprising—thanks for the link regarding the 20540; the 20541 is also a curved soprano, silver-plated and stamped "Made in France," but otherwise unmarked! The same tube.
 

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