Mouthpieces Absolute passaround?

Time for an up-date. 7 pieces on 4 sizes takes some time so I am not yet finished. Alto and tenor is still on-going, but here are my thoughts for soprano and bari.

Soprano (Yamaha wirh Rico Royal)

As others have said craftsmanship is superb on both. The only thing I realized is that the tip rail of the resin model is a bit more curved than my reeds and in consequence tip and reed don't line up exactly. However, it does not affect playability. For the steel mouthpiece reed and tip line up perfect.
Resin: Sound is full and versatile. You can be heard with this piece having some punch without being bright. Plays even and with good intonation over the full range. Tried it with the Absolute ligature and my GF-System. Much to my surprise the ligature made a difference. With the Absolute it had a bit broader sound with more depth that I liked more than with the GF-System. The downside, for me palm keys were more difficult with the Absolute ligature. Probably a matter of practice. I am not that often up there. I did the same with a Yanagisawa HR 7, switching the ligatures, and the sound differences were evened out when I used the Absolute on the Yani and the GF-System on Absolute. The most interesting set-up was Absolute / Absolute. The Absolute ligature in itself is a real high tech product that holds the reed firmly in place.
Should you be looking for a great mouthpiece at a price that does not break the bank go for it.

Steel aka the cutie: This would have made it on my wish list. It is brighter than the resin with a sound I liked very much and good projection. Alas, i could not play it in tune. That needs a bit explanation. In itself the intonation is very good over the whole range but when tuned to a= 442 Hz I had to push it in all the way until neck and end of the bore made contact. Even then I was constantly flat by 10 - 20 cent no matter how much I tried to voice it up or how hard I bit on the reed. Tuned at 440 Hz it was ok but still more strenous than with other mouthpieces. As there is a chance in Europe that you need to tune to 442 Hz I won't be the pround owner of a cutie. There are others that play this mouthpiece without problems (talk to Aldevis, trimmy or Sue). I guess it must be my sax. The YSS 675R as far as I know has the same neck as the YSS 875EX. It would be interesting to know if it is my specific instrument or if it is the neck being slightly to long. It is the first time ever this happened to me. However, the steel might be worthwhile a test on your sax since it is really a great mouthpiece. Did I mention I would have put it on my must have list...

Bari (Trevor James with Rico Royal and Rico orange)

Again great craftsmanship. It is about the smallest Bari piece I have encountered so far. Actually the Absolute alto ligature fits it. Plays even bottom to top, with good intonation. Middle E sticking out a bit could be me or the sax. Soundwise it is more for a refined and not to loud setting. My reference point is a Berg Larsen 115 / 2 SMS refaced by Kay Siebold. I am completely sold to its full sound, right amount of grunt and decent projection. The Absolute resin is very different to this description. Tastes are different as you can see from Kevs review, who put it on his wish list.From the sound clips on the Absolute homepage I would assume that the steel bari might be more to my liking.

Alto and tenor to folllow at the weekend.

Alphorn
 
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Steel aka the cutie: This would have made it on my wish list. It is brighter than the resin with a sound I liked very much and good projection. Alas, i could not play it in tune. That needs a bit explanation. In itself the intonation is very good over the whole range but when tuned to a= 442 Hz I had to push it in all the way until neck and end of the bore made contact. Even then I was constantly flat by 10 - 20 cent no matter how much I tried to voice it up or how hard I bit on the reed. Tuned at 440 Hz it was ok but still more strenous than with other mouthpieces. As there is a chance in Europe that you need to tune to 442 Hz I won't be the pround owner of a cutie. There are others that play this mouthpiece without problems (talk to Aldevis, trimmy or Sue). I guess it must be my sax. The YSS 675R as far as I know has the same neck as the YSS 875EX. It would be interesting to know if it is my specific instrument or if it is the neck being slightly to long. It is the first time ever this happened to me. However, the steel might be worthwhile a test on your sax since it is really a great mouthpiece. Did I mention I would have put it on my must have list...

@Absolute
The Soprano ST is one of the first batch made. I seem to remember from another forum that you introduced a deeper bore.
I can play in tune with the piece all in (and I am a flat player) but maybe alphorn is not the only one.
Can you measure the depth of the bore?

Tuning on soprano might deserve a forum itself....
 
Well than my problem is solved. Just measured the soprano steel of the pass-around. The step from bore to chamber is at 28.5 mm.

Does this in anyway affect the sound as the internal dimensions will be slightly bigger due to the longer bore?

Alphorn
 
Yes @aldevis, it is correct, in current production the internal step is 36.5 mm deep.
Well than my problem is solved. Just measured the soprano steel of the pass-around. The step from bore to chamber is at 28.5 mm.
How cool is this forum? A bore issue addressed in three different countries.
Does this in anyway affect the sound as the internal dimensions will be slightly bigger due to the longer bore?
In theory yes, probably not.
That mouthpiece plays in tune with itself even at A=435 (try)
Sometimes I suspect that that space between chamber and neck gets ignored by the standing wave, but probably nobody knows.
 
Finished with the Absolute mouthpieces. What a fun this week was. Many thanks to Marco / Absolute for the opportunity to test his great mouthpieces.

They are now with Kev again who will in time forward them.

Alto (Yamaha with Rico Royal and Vandoren blue)

Great pieces, very well made. My regular mouthpiece is a Meyer M6M from current production.
Resin: Very good intonation over the whole range, plays very even. Slightly darker sound than my Meyer but with much presence, good projection and a slightly broader tone. It is not as dark as a OL Tone Edge 6 I played from comparison. I only realized in direct comparison that my Meyer has some resistance while the Absolute was free blowing and effortless to play. Makes me wonder if a less resistant mouthpiece would a good thing to have. I like my Meyer but... This mouthpiece is easy to manage and is a serious contender to stock Meyers.

Steel: A bit wide with 7*. Never played such an opening before. Nevertheless with a softer reed easy to handle. I had expected some difficulties and squeaks. Nothing at all. With Vandoren blue 2 and Rico 2,5 very easy to play, free blowing and even across the range. Intonation was good but not as good as with the resin. Could very well be it was the big opening that took its toll and required more control from my side. What surprised me was that it didn't start to squeak when my embouchure got tired. That happens normally, with the steel I played until nothing more would sound, but no squeaks. Now, what about the sound? Significantly more on the bright side than the resin or my Meyer. Very solid bottom, great upper octave and loads of projection. If you play a bright sax as my YAS-475 is darker reeds might be an idea to soften up the mouthpiece a bit. The tone is more focussed than the resin. I quite liked the sound. If you are after a great mouthpiece with projection this could be for you.

Tenor (Jupiter with Rico Royal)

Very well made. My regular mouthpiece is a Brancher J27 (=0.108).
Resin: Was the biggest of the mouthpieces tested. Felt bigger than the bari piece. It played well across the range, spoke easily with a good sound. It had less presence and projection than expected from the design and a 7* opening. Relative to its opening it was a bit resistant. As you have guessed from my review of the other pieces I am a fan of a solid a bit more noisy sound. So, the tenor resin is a good piece but does not fit my preferences.

Steel: Free blowing, again as the other steel pieces with good presence and projection. A 6* requires a stiffer reed which I do not have routinely. I digged out a single new Rico Royal 3,5 and used my regular broken in 3,0 reeds. Long story short, the reeds I had available did not match the mouthpiece well and I did not buy alternatives for the test. I might not do justice to the mouthpiece so I will not go into details and leave it to your own test. I have talked to Kev and he had no problems at all with this mouthpiece. So test yourself.

Conclusion
Absolute mouthpieces are great mouthpieces at a very decent price that deserve to be more widely known. The Absolutes are free blowing and easy to control. The basic sound concept appears, for most of the tested mouthpieces, to be in the middle or slightly on the bright side. Most pieces have good or very good projection. For me and with the saxes used a warm sound can be obtained but I feel that it is not the sound I would naturally play with it. My favorite one of these 7 mouthpieces is clearly the steel soprano piece. For the alto pieces, I am still mulling about which one I would pick. Time will tell if I replace my Meyer. A final warning, should you participate in the pass around you might end up with even several new mouthpieces.
 
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The passaround kind of provoked a GAS attack. Thought I might be looking for an alto mouthpiece. As I had read good reviews of the D'Addario Jazz Select I decided to consider them as well. I took a chance and ordered it in 6 and 7 from Thomann as it is no hassle at all with them to return mouthpieces. Just to let you know, in comparison to the Absolute Resin they were straight out boring. I found that to me the Absolute Resin has a more interesting sound, has better intonation and is easy to blow with little resistance. Your preferences may differ, but to me there is no question which one to buy if I had to choose in that price range.

Alphorn
 

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