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Saxlicker wrote:
Seriously though..I've never seen a 12 :w00t:

Pop round to my place sometime, I park my Ford Focus in one each night... 8)

Seriously though, interesting thread. I'm watching the mouthpiece recommendations with especial interest. My YTS275 came with a Yamaha 4C. At the moment any problems I'm experiencing are down to my chops and the muppet wearing them, however I'd like to compile a shortlist for mpcs to audition for a rock/funk step up.
 
FrankB wrote:

I'm watching the mouthpiece recommendations with especial interest. My YTS275 came with a Yamaha 4C.


I'd like to compile a shortlist for mpcs to audition for a rock/funk step up.
Hmm..
Rock/funk eh?
There will be many recommendations I'm sure and much mouthpiece manufacturer literature making a claim their mouthpiece is ideal as well
Let me see...

Moving from a Yam 4C
YTS 275
Looking for a bit of quality?
Not too wild for your tender chops/experience?
Controllable maintaining a refined core.
How about a metal Lawton 6*B or something like...maybe a plain 6* drop the B or a plain 7 (thats around 0.107").
Hope this helps.

I have no reason to believe the new ones made by Geoff's son should be inferior to the originals, but its still probably worth a second hand search for cost reasons.
 
Saxlicker wrote:
Hmm..
Rock/funk eh?

You can stick some blues in the mix as well (just to make it an even taller order!), but I won't be moving up to something new until my chops can at least handle what I have now. I've been down the GAS route for another hobby, and I'm not a believer in "chops in a box"!

Lawton, eh? Thanks! I'll add them to the list!
 
mfox wrote:
sorry pete how could i for get earl "who snuck the wine in the gravy" bastic..

blueberryhill.. mouthpiece is very important too for the sound your going for..so budget in for a good MP..my recomenation would be for a dukoff D9.. but that really depends on your ability.. but dukoff is the MP.. im sure im gonna get flamed now..

iknow guys its not a beginners MP..

Thanks everyone ! Will check them out.Are there brands of mouthpieces that specialize in certain styles of music ? eg like the Dukoff D9 might be good for say Rockn' Roll but not for slow blues.
If I was to get the Trevor James Classic Tenor Sax Pack which comes with a mouthpiece, would the mouthpiece not be very good then !

Cheers
 
Nothing is that specific.

You make your sound and you play in the style, the mouthpiece kind of colours your sound and lets different amounts of harmonics through. It also provides a different amount of resistance and a larger or smaller chamber for you to fill with air.

The general consensus is that a larger chamber will give you a bigger fuller sound. Great.
And a mouthpiece with a high 'baffle' (wedge thing inside) will make overtone production easier and give a brighter edgier sound.

Your rock and roll mouthpiece will be quite likely to have a decent sized baffle with a nicely sized chamber. Your sleazy jazz sound will have very little or no baffle and a huge chamber, for example.

It's more like suiting a mouthpiece to yourself than suiting a mouthpiece to a style, I certainly wouldn't change mouthpiece in a set, and I doubt you'd see any professional change mouthpiece unless the music suddenly changed from Rock n Roll to classical or something else drastic.
 
I agree with Linky.

I got a TJ alto sax pack when I started and the mpc was more "classical" sounding and definitely not what I was looking for. It was a much better sound when I switched to an Otto Link (for a warmer, jazzy sound).
 
Blueberry, Feckless,

I also bought a Trevor James Classic tenor and have to say that I didn't like the supplied mouthpiece very much. It felt cheap & nasty and I couldn't get anything like the tone I was after out of the sax.

I ended up buying an Otto Link HR Tone Edge 6* mpc from our good friend Mr Linky Lee. What a difference - the sax sounded so much better and I could play the palm key notes effortlessly - could barely play them at all with the original mpc.

As I said before though, it's still very much a warm, mellow, jazzy sounding sax (which suits me fine). From what I've heard though, something like a Jumbo Java might turn it into a real rocker!

Peter
 
I'm glad you're pleased with it.

Funnily enough I've gone full circle and am back to playing a Tone Edge 6 with some harder reeds.

I'm thinking about selling the Selmer as I don't really need it anymore and they are in very short supply so I could get a reasonable price for it on eBay or something.

How did you find the transfer to a larger mouthpiece?
 
Linky_Lee wrote:
I'm glad you're pleased with it.

Funnily enough I've gone full circle and am back to playing a Tone Edge 6 with some harder reeds.

I'm thinking about selling the Selmer as I don't really need it anymore and they are in very short supply so I could get a reasonable price for it on eBay or something.

How did you find the transfer to a larger mouthpiece?

The transition went surprisingly smoothly, Linky. I remember it felt a little unusual for the first couple of playing sessions and I had some minor intonation problems when using the octave key, but all that disappeared very quickly. Of course I was still getting over that bout of Bell's Palsy and so hadn't played for several weeks anyway.

But yeah, after a couple of days at most I felt perfectly at home with it 🙂 and the sax felt easier to play & much more responsive than with the old piece.

Cheers

Peter
 
I made a transition on alto from a Selmer Soloist D, using Rico Jazz Select 3Soft reeds up a couple of sizes to a F opening not too long ago, and had to make the trade-off of going to a softer reed, RJS 2Medium or similar. It didn't take long at all to get used to the wider tip opening, the plus side being more volume and better pitch bending. I'd had a wider-opening Beechler Diamond Inlay (it has 8 embossed on it) which I'd always found a very hard blow until going to the Selmer F, but now I've married up the Beechler to the Dolnet alto it's sounding and playing fantastic.

Similarly, I've gone from a Selmer C* to a Jumbo Java T75 on tenor (I think this is the widest of the Jumbo Javas) and again, once I got used to it in a couple of days the tone and volume are great on my old YTS-23.

What can be hard, after moving up to a wider opening, is going back again - not too much adjustment back to a Meyer 5 or Link 5 on the alto (although noticeably quieter), but going back to the Selmer C* on tenor was horrible. Much quieter, felt very resistant, loads of bum notes and squeaks, and the tone was kind of strangulated - so awful, in fact, that I thought something must be wrong with the sax rather than me.

Going back to the point about different pieces for different styles, I suppose it's true to an extent, although what shapes the sound most is your own playing. For that reason, although a mouthpiece may have 'jazz' as part of its moniker it doesn't necessarily mean it'll only be suitable for jazz. I'd recommend trying out a few side-by-side, and you should find something that you feel comfortable playing and that gives you a sound you like. I've found in the past that I know almost immediately if a mouthpiece feels right for me, and playing it for only a few minutes tells me whether I like the basic. After that, it's down to seeing what I can get it to do.

Cheers, Bob
 

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