p.s back in the day, when I was fortunate to live in NYC and go hear James Carter at St. Nick's on a Monday night, and the new guys from Lincoln Center at Cleopatra's Needle on the next two or three, all the best saxophone players, when you would talk to them, would tell you to listen to brass players, because you cannot play brass and fail to hear first (to play from what you hear, instead of just kind of moving your fingers around -- you have to prehear, to play brass), and the great brass players would tell you to listen to singers -- all of the mind blowing trumpet players would tell you to listen to singers, usually Louis and Bessie Smith. I doubt any of that has changed, among those who ask themselves, first, "What do I have to say?" I'm surprised by how seldom tenors players claim trombonists as influences. I expect that is a silence of circumstance, not fact.