That’s probable. But unless you set out your playing in a certain way, or play in a string quartet it’s of limited value. Your string quartet is fine until you play a piano quintet.
But nobody would have noticed or choked on their weak beer
True but my point was those who get worried about being bang on with an equal temperament tuner may not need to get quite so wound up.
Yeah, and of course the saxophone has been referred to as the "devil's horn" (or at least I have a book on the history of the sax with that title). I also think I've heard the tritone called the 'devil's interval'. And it's true that a tritone on its own is pretty dissonant. But then, put it in a dominant 7th chord (I'd suggest the tritone defines the dominant chord) and it sounds fine. Of course, a dominant chord does have a certain amount of tension which can be increased somewhat with altered extensions. But that's what makes it a useful chord; it wants to resolve, providing motion.
Yes well that really was a thing back in the early days, it is the reason for the mistakenly attributed devil's chord to the music of those days. That said, there was some kickback against Monterverdi's dominant 7, not least because the 7th came unprepared - it would have been OK had it been in the prvious chord thus "preparing" the ears for the shock and horror.
With respect, playing music has been a thing for thousands of years - the medieval period is hardly early... Unless mankind has millions of yeas to go (doubtful)... Which could make us early, of course.
I know that, but I was talking in the context of the discussion about the devil's chord/interval which is a thing in what is known academically as Early Music that includes mostly mediaeval and renaissance, so it's not really relevant to the music that came before that wherein, as far as I know, the devil's interval wasn't mentioned. But maybe it was.
Sure.
Sure there was of course earlier music I’m not disputing that.
So, one is a Cool signature and the other is mere scribble ? 😉
And of course, the mediaeval period was not without considerable superstitious beliefs (much of it still far from eradicated even today). Witches, black cats, the devil, etc. The saxophone obviously didn't exist back then; I wonder what they would have thought of it, if it had been introduced!
Yeah, take the blues for exhibit A. I guess in the blues most of the tension-release is in the V-IV-I or II-V-I changes. Not to mention the 'blue notes' (discussed elsewhere). But then the blues don't necessarily obey all the "rules" of harmony.
Well, Schoenberg wrote a 12 tone piece for piano, as I’m sure others did. If the piano used equal temperament tuning then your wish is granted.
So the work used in the video I posted does do what the OP wanted by used the "full" harmonic series of each tone. And can account for various tuning systems including non-12tet. That makes is more powerful...
Thanks Pete. Now I have a much better idea of what was being discussed early on in this thread.
(bottom of page)
