Tech/maintenance SHWoodwind Updates

I haven't come to any conclusions - but the crimped rod/hinge screw head showed up on that Thomann bari...which has been confirmed as having been made in Taiwan.

I don't recall any spring-related oddities on the BWs...aside from the common practice of fitting undersized springs.

Yes: I was talking about the tenor's screw, as I understood the photo order.

BWs likely had, on occasion, the same "opportunistic" cheat that you'll find on some of my Crescents: a weird, foamy bit, shoved into the pivot hole acting like a sort of plumber's tape insertion or teflon spacer on some keys. Even with the shoulderless BW, I suspect if you stick a dental tool down into the pivot holes eventually you'll pull one of these out.

I didn't realize they were there until using some Crescent keywork for custom keywork replacement.

It's exactly things like that that separate Taiwan from PRC. I agree the spring loaded isn't necessary, and is kind of a "cheat" that's slightly inefficient, but it's on the early Refs and I haven't seen anybody complain about lost efficiency. I agree it's there, but it's just not something most people would notice, until having it "pointed out."

I can make a long list of what was normally wrong with Crescents when they came from the factory, and I'm confident the BWs had similar issues coming straight from the factory. After my engraving and pivots (from drawings/notes and links I sent them) showed up on the non-ASPD BWs, some months after I gave the factory the requests and diagrams, I didn't send them any further instructions or notes on assembly and set-up. Everything that could be done here, I did here. So I have a pretty good idea what your normal pre-playtest routine was, "back in the day."

The original Crescent rodscrews look exactly like in the photo I intended to refer to, though: cone shaped abraded area astride the slot, sort of parabolic, smooth, unnecessary, as if someone ran it sidelong against the side of an abrasive belt first one side, then the other. The only reason I can think of for that to exist is that they cut the screw slot and then ended up with boogers on the side, so what was intended to be a 1-step finish became a 2-step finish, not quite entirely automated. I don't have a lot more details than that. I almost never used the PRC factory's rodscrews for anything but replacements for other products from them. The metal was so weird, even if I had to replace a rodscrew from the factory normally I'd replace with one "made from scratch" (with a different steel more amenable to being worked).

[edit: I should add (to not be misinterpreted): I'm not saying in that last par that the screw metal itself was inferior. In a way, it's superior. It was/is very stiff, and difficult to cut because so stiff/hard. It was just not what we normally see, as far as rodscrew metal.]
 
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I'm wondering if the 'padding' inside key barrels might be more to do with lubrication than taking up free play (in some cases). Keeps the oil/grease around the screw tip rather than letting it slide down the (over-drilled) barrel.

You feel the flats on the rod head are abraded? I suppose they could be - I don't think I've ever looked that closely. It's always seemed to me that the head's been put into a smoothed-jawed vice/clamp and crimped up. Next time I come across one I'll give it a closer look.
 
I'm wondering if the 'padding' inside key barrels might be more to do with lubrication than taking up free play (in some cases). Keeps the oil/grease around the screw tip rather than letting it slide down the (over-drilled) barrel.

You feel the flats on the rod head are abraded? I suppose they could be - I don't think I've ever looked that closely. It's always seemed to me that the head's been put into a smoothed-jawed vice/clamp and crimped up. Next time I come across one I'll give it a closer look.

I don't know how what I see happened or why at all! But I find this interesting from the perspective of the "Occam's Razor" metric -- at work in so many things, today, where people prefer "The Opposite of Occam's Razor" ("the most complicated conspiracy theory that comes into my field must be true") to explain...everything...because they are cognitively challenged.

I have a different "theorem" which we can call...whatever. I think that "the explanation that has the greatest explanatory and predictive power is usually the correct one" is probably more useful. Someone else, no doubt, has already put that forward and named it, maybe two people, because it is formally two different hypotheses, unbeknowst to me at this moment.

But the details that go into that may be of interest lol. There's an emoji on my phone that basically says, "I'm a nerdy dork" the way I use it. Can't find it in the emojis here. It belongs at this moment.
 
Couple of articles to end the (crappy) year on:

First up is an an overview (not quite a full review) of Selmer's 130th Anniversary Edition alto...


...and then we have some random rants and musings on the year that was 2020...


Happy New Year, folks - to you and yours, wherever you may be.
 
Couple of articles to end the (crappy) year on:

First up is an an overview (not quite a full review) of Selmer's 130th Anniversary Edition alto...


...and then we have some random rants and musings on the year that was 2020...


Happy New Year, folks - to you and yours, wherever you may be.

Happy New Year, Steve. I've read both articles already, so I'm going to have to find something else to do this evening. Luckily I have some freshly poured take out Cask Ale and an Indian Takeaway to look forward to. Cheers!
 
Happy New Year, Steve. I've read both articles already, so I'm going to have to find something else to do this evening. Luckily I have some freshly poured take out Cask Ale and an Indian Takeaway to look forward to. Cheers!
Blimey, that was quick!! Clearly I need to write longer articles....

Enjoy the cask ale and the takeaway. I'm having my traditional celebratory meal of pie (steak and kidney), homemade wedgie chips and mushy peas. Plus numerous and assorted beverages of varying provenance....starting with homebrew sloe gin at 3pm. Cheers!
 
Blimey, that was quick!! Clearly I need to write longer articles....

Enjoy the cask ale and the takeaway. I'm having my traditional celebratory meal of pie (steak and kidney), homemade wedgie chips and mushy peas. Plus numerous and assorted beverages of varying provenance....starting with homebrew sloe gin at 3pm. Cheers!
Read them already? Lightweight - some of us have proofread them:
  • underneath all that bling their lies
  • a reference this horn being
  • perhaps rather lot less impressed
  • there exists a number of fixes
  • And maybe that all that really matters
(Couldn't find any errors in "Going viral" :thumb: )

Longer articles, or more of them - yes please! Though given what you said about your workload I suspect that's not going to happen...

Espresso martinis, prosecco and home-made pizza definitely on the menu for us - auguri per un felice 2021
 
Read them already? Lightweight - some of us have proofread them:
  • underneath all that bling their lies
  • a reference this horn being
  • perhaps rather lot less impressed
  • there exists a number of fixes
  • And maybe that all that really matters
(Couldn't find any errors in "Going viral" :thumb: )

Longer articles, or more of them - yes please! Though given what you said about your workload I suspect that's not going to happen...

Espresso martinis, prosecco and home-made pizza definitely on the menu for us - auguri per un felice 2021

Ah, but have you proofread your proofreading ? What's wrong with "there exists a number of fixes" ?

Happy New Year to all.

Rhys
 
Read them already? Lightweight - some of us have proofread them:
  • underneath all that bling their lies
  • a reference this horn being
  • perhaps rather lot less impressed
  • there exists a number of fixes
  • And maybe that all that really matters
(Couldn't find any errors in "Going viral" :thumb: )

Longer articles, or more of them - yes please! Though given what you said about your workload I suspect that's not going to happen...

Espresso martinis, prosecco and home-made pizza definitely on the menu for us - auguri per un felice 2021
Ta for that!

Very genuinely surprised that 'Going viral' came up with no errors...for reasons which I'll not go in to (ahem...cough...Malbec...).

It's been something of a frustrating year in terms of writing. So much has been going on that I've simply not had the time to put it all down in anything more than a few cursory social media posts.
I'd very much like that to change in the new year, especially with regard to the Benchlife Blog.

We shall see...
 
I'd suggest not. There exists a number. Singular.
...but "of fixes". Plural. Which I think Steve and I prefer. But may be best revised to "... a number of fixes exist ..." which should be sufficiently uncontentious to mean we don't have to repair to the car-park to resolve the issue. I'd prefer that because (a) it's cold out there, and (b) I'm a yellow chicken.
 
...but "of fixes". Plural.
But the verb 'exist' refers to 'a number', ie a singular noun.
I accept that such usage is common - we (well, some people ... not me obviously) might say the 'team are on the pitch', when it should properly be 'the team is on the pitch', since it's one team, albeit composed of several members.
we don't have to repair to the car-park to resolve the issue. I'd prefer that because (a) it's cold out there, and (b) I'm a yellow chicken.
Can't argue with that!
 

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