Beginner serie 1v true tone

[eb424]

Hi does anyone know anything about the lower g# pearl key on this sax. The key seems to have no action but operates if i lift it. Im not sure how the action should be..

 

[MMM]

spring come off its cradle?

 

[jbtsax]

I think you are referring to the "G# trill key" on the lower stack. Typically that key is "unsprung" and floats up when you lift it. When you press down on the key it should open the G# key cup. See if you can follow the "path" of that mechanism up to where it makes contact with the G# key cup and see if there is something bent or missing. A close up photo of this area would help.

 

[Vetinari]

On my c-mel that key rises when I play G# then pressing it (while holding G#) drops note to G.

 

[eb424]

Hi Thanks all. I've what would you need a photo of exactly. The key lifts when I push the punky table g# otherwise I have to manually lift it for it to work. It has just been re padded but the guy didn't know about the operation of this key..

 

[nigeld]

It’s as @Vetinari says:
The key does not do anything on its own.
However if you finger a G# then the key should rise, and if you then push it down it closes the G# hole.
So it can be used to trill between G# and G.

I don’t understand why this was considered useful.

 

[jbtsax]

Hi Thanks all. I've what would you need a photo of exactly. The key lifts when I push the punky table g# otherwise I have to manually lift it for it to work. It has just been re padded but the guy didn't know about the operation of this key..

Oops. I think I may have spoken too soon. It has been a while since I have worked on one of these. From your description it now appears as if the G# trill key on the RH stack closes rather than opens the G# key cup to produce the trill. You can check this by fingering G# and pressing down on the trill G# pearl.

[note to self: read previous responses before posting]

 

[eb424]

Ahh that makes sence thanks
Have to agree with Nigeld tho is it really of any use..

 

[jbtsax]

My theory is that a lot of the vaudeville and "novelty" music for saxophone in the 1920's and '30's were quite "flowery" and had a lot of embellishments like trills. Most trills on a saxophone are quite easy---except for those using the little finger of either hand. I suspect this solo literature was part of the reason so many of the saxophone models from that period had auxiliary trill fingerings for G# and Eb.

 

[eb424]

Hmm last one.. I've had the sax back from the overhaul for a couple of days. I noticed a squeeky. I seem to be hitting the high e palm key whilst pushing the G key down.. Will practice get me over this can anything be done with the key or will I need some longer fingers..

 

[GCinCT]

Hmm last one.. I've had the sax back from the overhaul for a couple of days. I noticed a squeeky. I seem to be hitting the high e palm key whilst pushing the G key down.. Will practice get me over this can anything be done with the key or will I need some longer fingers..

I have small hands and have had the same problem in the past. Practice. Curl your fingers and practice very slowly to build correct technique. You can overcome it.

 

[DartmoorHedgehog]

My baritone has that G# trill key - really annoying and sometimes it hits the underside of my RH fingers when I press the LH G# key. I've actually considered removing it a couple of times when it's annoyed me, then decided just to live with it (and keep my RH fingers straighter).