Tech/maintenance Renovation

[skeller047]

Ditto, I don't think that has changed the meaning of, "The Old Goat!". a reference to a cantankerous old man. 😛

Or a promiscuous one...

 

[Colin the Bear]

🐐?

 

[Targa]

Or a promiscuous one...

Which originates from the greek satyr.

 

[LostCircuits]

Which originates from the greek satyr.

You should read Jitterbug Perfume / Pan Aroma in German

 

[Targa]

You should read Jitterbug Perfume / Pan Aroma in German

A quick look at the plot on Wikipedia apart from a brief mention of Pan it doesn't seem to have any relevance to satyrs and the myths of Dionysus.
The Satyricon is more of a fun read.

 

[JayeNM]

I HAVE been toying with reducing my current beard to a Goatee....but would it carry other implications, then ?😵

 

[skeller047]

Which originates from the greek satyr.

Hence my reference to half goat earlier.

I HAVE been toying with reducing my current beard to a Goatee....but would it carry other implications, then ?😵

Only if you have a half a gostee…

 

[Woodpad]

In this climate the survival skills of the camel are unmatched ..........and think of all the toes.

Hence my reference to half goat earlier.

This camel was no reference to You Bastard, the mathematically correct discworld camel.

 

[Hoosierken]

It is a challenge but I used plain old Klean Strip paint stripper to get the paint off of a gold plated Conn C mel. It cleaned up pretty well and does play. It got retired after I got my Holton though, which plays a lot better. BTW, I didn't use any carwash. I did use steel wool, acetone and a lot of paper towels.

BTW

 

[LostCircuits]

A quick look at the plot on Wikipedia apart from a brief mention of Pan it doesn't seem to have any relevance to satyrs and the myths of Dionysus.
The Satyricon is more of a fun read.

I know the Satyricon but Tom Robbins is one of a kind.

 

[JayeNM]

It is a challenge but I used plain old Klean Strip paint stripper to get the paint off of a gold plated Conn C mel. It cleaned up pretty well and does play. It got retired after I got my Holton though, which plays a lot better. BTW, I didn't use any carwash. I did use steel wool, acetone and a lot of paper towels.

Plated finish will not be effected by a chem stripper, so you ended up doing well there.....good job.

 

[djarossens]

After a while and some work the holes are filled, new rollers are made, all the keys are repadded, mayn of the springs are replaced and all the corks. its back together and I have the adjustments to do and some corks to change to adjust the feel and some of the key openings.

 

[djarossens]

I have a question, during the overhaul/ repair I have corked the neck of the instrument which, although it has the same serial number stamped on it as the body, seems very narrow. I used a fairly thick but normal cork and it is still too narrow for most of the tenor mouthpieces. These obviously plar sharp as they are short compared to a baritone mouthpiece. This got me to wondering what the mouthpieces would have been for such an instrument? Any ideas?

Thanks

 

[djarossens]

And a fun gem - I found these pads on some of the keys - I think they are most likely originals as the insides of the cups were pristine. They have a brass band in them to give them the shape and are drawn closed with a thread running round through the stitches. I can only imagine the time to make them - they are a thing of wonder - a shame they are to brittle to still play.
Definitely puts some pressure on tone hole and key alignment if there is no adjustment in the pad!

 

[LostCircuits]

Tenor and baritone MPCs have about the same bore diameter so all you really need to do is a good cork without too much sanding and you should be fine with any bari mouthpiece.

 

[Woodpad]

The trick with this type of pads is that the brass ring rests partly on the rim of the key cup. They determine the distance between key cup an tone hole.

 

[JayeNM]

After a while and some work the holes are filled, new rollers are made, all the keys are repadded, mayn of the springs are replaced and all the corks. its back together and I have the adjustments to do and some corks to change to adjust the feel and some of the key openings.

I would really like to see the result of patching the drill holes. Can you post that ?

I have a question, during the overhaul/ repair I have corked the neck of the instrument which, although it has the same serial number stamped on it as the body, seems very narrow. I used a fairly thick but normal cork and it is still too narrow for most of the tenor mouthpieces. These obviously plar sharp as they are short compared to a baritone mouthpiece. This got me to wondering what the mouthpieces would have been for such an instrument? Any ideas?

Thanks

Well it is the original neck....are you saying a tenor mouthpiece is too LOOSE on it ? Are you sure you are ussing the thickest neck cork available (should be 1/16" or 1.6mm....)

If that really is too loose, then you can find, sometimes 2.4mm (3/32") cork, but you would have to buy it online from a tech supply shop.

Of course, no point in putting all of that work into resurrecting this horn and NOT buying a Baritone mouthpiece...so go do that, too.

 

[Ghr9204]

After a while and some work the holes are filled, new rollers are made, all the keys are repadded, many of the springs are replaced and all the corks. its back together and I have the adjustments to do and some corks to change to adjust the feel and some of the key openings. View attachment 32666

It looks much more respectable now, well done, congratulations on all the hard work.

As @JayeNM alluded to, could you show photos and a brief explanation of how you fixed those holes drilled into the sax body that didn't belong there?

I have my own ideas on how I might fix those, but you may have a methodology we can all learn from. 😀

 

[Colin the Bear]

My baritone S80 mouthpiece fitted my Weltklang easily. It also fits my current baritone, as did a Yamaha C5.

My tenor Soloist mouthpiece won't fit the baritone cork, even slightly. The mouthpiece is too small.

The baritone S80 is very loose on the tenor neck.

A Yam C5 is relatively inexpensive and plays quite well on a Weltklang baritone.

 

[djarossens]

It looks much more respectable now, well done, congratulations on all the hard work.

As @JayeNM alluded to, could you show photos and a brief explanation of how you fixed those holes drilled into the sax body that didn't belong there?

I have my own ideas on how I might fix those, but you may have a methodology we can all learn from. 😀