Saxophones Pitt American " King Stencil " Need Maker info & year made if possible? waiting for delivery -

[Cookinsky]

Pitt American " King Stencil "? waiting for delivery -🙂
just wondering who may have made this & about what year it could be, thanks for any info 🙂

New pads & springs 🙂 $165. 00 on E-bay🙂

Letters MM
are over serial # 981

 

[Grumps]

The best way to estimate the year for a stencil horn is to find the King model it was based upon... and then add about five years. Yours has a front F and no split bell keys. At least the 1930's.

 

[JayeNM]

As I replied in the other thread you replied to, this is a King Cleveland model, their second-shelf models behind the Zephyr and Super 20.

SerialNumbers - hnwhite.com

Musical instruments made by The H. N. White Company King

www.hnwhite.com

typically one would scroll down to "Cleveland Serial Numbers" and it will get you the approximate date.

But...

"MM 981" is not a KIng nor King Cleve serial sequence at all, so the serial list does not help you, we gotta date it simply by physical attributes.

My knee-jerk response is with that serial, it isn't a King at all. But based on the fw pics you posted, it does, on quick look, appear to be a Cleveland indeed. Some stencils did not have mother factory serials, at the request of the stencil brand (in this case Pitt).

I would still say 50's-ish.

 

[Grumps]

Just curious Jaye, did Clevelands ever have that extra right hand trill key?

 

[Cookinsky]

Thanks for the information you all 🙂

 

[Cookinsky]

AI content >>> ➠

Pitt American saxophones were stencil instruments sold by Volkwein Brothers in Pittsburgh, PA, during the 1930s, primarily produced by Cleveland-based manufacturers like the Ohio Band Instrument Company.

Pitt American saxophones were manufactured by Ohio-based firms, specifically the Ohio Band Instrument Company, which was closely affiliated with the H.N. White Company.

These were built by a major manufacturer (like H.N. White) for a different company—in this case, Volkwein Brothers in Pittsburgh—and branded The Pitt American brand was produced around the 1930s up to World War II.

Pitt American Brand - Pittsburgh-based Volkwein Brothers, they also marketed other instruments under names like Fort Pitt, Paragon, and Top Notch
The Pitt American saxophones are part of the broader, rich history of high-quality, mid-century American instrument manufacturing in Ohio and music retail in Pennsylvania.

 

[PigSquealer]

Keep studying. AI scrapes information from the net. Some which is ancient & inaccurate.

King H.N White Musical Instruments Company - DannyChesnut.com

 

[JayeNM]

Just curious Jaye, did Clevelands ever have that extra right hand trill key?

Ooh good question, gonna scour my pics