Anyhow back to the licks...
OK, I'll bite...considering I was around and digging jazz in the 1950s/60s. Jazz was new and fashionable. All the arts are about going to new places. Doesn't mean that those older expressions are bad, they are just past. Where "artists" get in trouble is in going to a previous art form and using an analytical approach to recreate the same work. How valued is a work by a contemporary artist who has analyzed the style and brush strokes of Van Gogh and paints in his style? Not much. Any galleries hosting painters who copy the style of famous painters? How valued are tribute bands compared to the original?I trust my desafinado comment was taken in the spirit it was intended.
It wouldn't do for us all be into the same and each to their own is correct.
I am not a jazz enthusiast ; I have heard and listen to very little and when I do I go for the melodic...Zoot : Art Pepper : Scott Hamilton and yeah Stan Getz though the bossa stuff...well I've done that..
In college being into jazz was pretty much considered essential ; players judged each other on how well they could play Donna Lee : more or less every performance given was some standard or other : to me it became tiresome .
Im going out on a limb here but my opinion on jazz is that at the time it was all about stretching boundaries : breaking down barriers : but foremost forward thinking . It achieved that ( I think )...
It puzzles me why almost a century later people are still 're hashing those same old standards. Go to your local " jazz night " or open mic and that is exactly what you will get . Not only that but the old format of head : sax solo ( or trumpet whatever ) piano solo : bass : drums on every tune...sure if you enjoy it I guess : great but I can't help but wonder what the like of Bird or Diz would make of it all these many years later..
Sure the argument will be why do we ĺisten to Chopin : Bach etc ; that I can't answer but it has something to do with the forward thinking thing and how it is not continuing nor contributing to that....each to there own !!
Only my opinion and as I say I'm far from a jazz buff : perhaps I'm trying to justify to myself why....
This (unfortunately) gets into that area of definitions/semantics. I don't consider myself a jazz player if that now means to most people playing in a style of the 1950s/60s, however I play 99% improvised music. Hopefully there is a healthy future for improvisation, but that doesn't necessarily = what most people now call jazz. E.g. I'll play a gig with DJs for dancers that's 100% improvisation, and yet nobody would call that jazz. It's more about spinning melodies and telling stories that are missing from that type of music, yet can fit. It's never about trying to show off your chops (just as well since mine are very limited). There are precious few situations where anyone wants to listen to some w*n*er doing an ego trip.Well said Wade : well said !! Surely if there is a jazz hat to be worn right now it should be worn by those who are pushing the limits using the latest innovations in sound : production : visuals : the whole thing . Who this is I wouldn't know ; as I say I don't do jazz but I'd sure like to hear it !!
In my study of music history and "jazz history" I have become familiar with works that were "milestones" in the development of that particular form or style of music. Whether composed by Bach, Mozart, Jellyroll Morton, Duke Ellington, or Irving Berlin these songs exemplify music of "timeless quality" and "lasting worth" by virtue of the fact that they are still with us today. As such, I believe that each successive generation of both players and listeners of music can greatly benefit from having the opportunity to become familiar with all of these styles of music either through listening or playing which collectively make up the musical heritage of our "western civilization".A classic is an outstanding example of a particular style; something of lasting worth or with a timeless quality; of the first or highest quality, class, or rank – something that exemplifies its class.
Not sure you meant me, but I am a Pete nonetheless.Did you vote Pete ? Be interested as to what you think...