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Congratulations on your daughter's wedding.

I just made this with AI today (inspired by my daughters recent wedding) and was totally mind blown... The song itself, band, singer and sax solos were just too good... There's no future for humans in music if this is just the early stages!
Someone still has to write the prompts. I can see it now--music conservatories all over the world boil their curriculum down to a single class...Prompt Writing 101. :rolleyes:
 
Jay / better sax just did a YouTube along the same lines.

View: https://youtu.be/zILnvIMUs4M


I fell for the profession, along with many others.

For me, I learn playing music as a thing I like you do; so it has no impact on me directly.

Maybe AIs impact on commercial music will just drive more people to engage with music as a social or personal activity; and not (just) a consumer product.
 
Maybe AIs impact on commercial music will just drive more people to engage with music as a social or personal activity; and not (just) a consumer product.

Nah. Consumerism is what's driving people to AI in the first place. There's no creativity or skill involved in writing a prompt.

AI songs are like a girl with breast implants. Sure, it might look okay, but it's not real so it's not all that impressive. They're not even unique or special since anyone with money can have a pair just like 'em.
 
Consumerism is what's driving people to AI in the first place.
Perhaps for others, but I find it an annoying turnoff. 😛
There's no creativity or skill involved in writing a prompt.
Concur.
It looks like the AI bot on SOTW has been silent starting from August 31, 2025.
Seems to confirm that AI is not taking over like it is being hyped. 🌸 :optimistic::old:
 
AI can play the saxophone pretty well though... and does a decent job with Hip Hop, Brazilian and Jazz Fusion music. See recent videos by Better Sax:

View: https://youtu.be/zILnvIMUs4M


And a week or so earlier by ZackGrooves (Zack Graybeal, Nathan "Saxologic" Graybeal's big brother):

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcrQxrzFpWY


(Patrick Bartley did a reaction video to Zack's video which is priceless.)

This is Suno, not ChatGPT or Gemini, or whatever Google is calling it these days, but it uses the same approach. It's just using music as the training material. (I wonder if the musicians got paid their $0.0003 per stream for the training...)

Music is going back to the people because it has been commoditized to death. It's essentially worthless now. Just like painting and writing, the AI will be able to do it better soon. The only hope for musicians is to bring back the unions and require every club to pay a living wage. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

Soon it will be like the Middle Ages. "Oh wow, I just got a steady gig at Elon's castle, he's keeping a rock band and a string quartet on staff."
 
Consumerism is what's driving people to AI in the first place
Sure.
But at the same time it is pushing people to reevaluate personal skills; and, sometimes, more clearly show their value - and sometimes showing that some things considered valuable, aren't.

Lots of highly skilled professionals fritter away time on mundane tasks; doctors giving rudimentary health checks, lawyers generating boilerplate contracts, musicians generating musac etc....

As with each phase of industrial change graft will move around... First they came for the typesetters, now they're coming for the journalists.
 
If you were to ask a tech-futurist a couple decades ago, they'd probably say that the whole point of automation is so that machines can do the dull or unpleasant jobs humans don't want to do so humans can be freed up precisely for enjoyable things like music, art, film, dance, poetry, theater, etc. And while LLMs seem to have gotten this absolutely backwards for the time being, displacing the fun creative jobs before anything else, the fact remains that the entire point of music (and the other arts) is human enjoyment. That means humans creating music for and with other humans. Listening to music created by other humans. Experiencing art to help cope with the bittersweet nature of our finite existence, as we've done since prehistory.

As I've written elsewhere, I feel more validated and appreciated today when I play music on a high level than I ever have. Even "normal" people (non-jazz-fiends, etc) light up when they hear a real live musician doing something cool. This will only get more significant as AI and automation fatigue escalates.

Additionally, the entire argument of "AI is going to be everywhere so we have to embrace it!" benefits exactly one type of person, and that's a venture capitalist in an AI firm. All of those are famously unprofitable at the moment and most of their corporate pilot programs are failing. So I can't help but think there might be a chance that our two-post OP might be doing the bidding of one of these, wittingly or otherwise. 🙂
 
the fact remains that the entire point of music (and the other arts) is human enjoyment.
Ok. But - and you are much more a music insider than me - where's the bulk of paid music work?
I'd guess;
maybe its advertising, mood background in TV thrillers or romcoms etc? 100% work here will be lost.
Pit work, subbing in touring shows and orchestras, weddings and bar mitzvahs etc? Well if they didn't want a live band they can have a DJ already.
Radio & streaming; no ones earnings there apart from mega stars anyway - who will lose out to AI soundalikes.
Teaching? Sure, a lot of teaching will be impacted by AI
Other?

I reckon AI will reduce the amount a grunt but paid work. The demand for live music by real arteeest either won't change and could increase; but the "pays the rent" work will become less... Which is tough.

As an aside; arts people here - where there are good State subsidies - are more worried about state spending shifting more towards the military.
 
where's the bulk of paid music work?
If you discount teaching and pop stars, it would be general gigs in pubs, bands touring, shows and sessions.
I'd guess;
maybe its advertising, mood background in TV thrillers or romcoms etc? 100% work here will be lost.
No, that is just the sessions musicians and the composers. Yes, a lot of that will be lost. I'm glad I'm retiring from being a composer. Well, I did that a few years back when my main client went to jail for embezzling, but that's another story....
 
Why would thise be reduced due to AI - any more than PC based DJs have done already?

Because as AI drives down the cost of production more and more consumers get "for free" (e.g. Spotify, and I think eventually the Movie/TV/VR version of Spotify) what they previously had to expend time and money to obtain. It's already happening now but the scale of it will increase.

When you don't have to leave your house for entertainment who pays the touring musician?
 
It's already happening now but the scale of it will increase

When you don't have to leave your house for entertainment who pays the touring musician?
Since Radio this has been true.
Sure streaming will just fill up with soundalike and some income will be lost...

.... And yet people go to live gigs.
My question actually was - how does AI impact on that?
It may even increase the demand for real people playing instruments.
 

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